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I find it hilarious I played against more Red offenses than The Deck... lol

I am going to have to agree with Mr. Underwood on this one. The premise that grabbing a bunch of cards that you like to play and make a deck is made for a casual environment. The people at 2012 NATS did their homework and made the deck they thought would win. Did they like using the cards in the deck? Each person will give a different answer. The fact that Redemption was created and then started print in 1997 with no new legal tournament formats created and no banned or restricted lists makes for unusual card play situations. I wont argue the fact that some cards may seem broken or that R&D needs to make a card in a new set every year to control those cards. The fact of the matter is that in any card game you will have these problems. Is it the right time in Redemption's existence to start making new formats allowing only certain sets to be played or that banning some cards from being played anymore. I think if you do one you have to to both. I also think that if Redemption should go as far as doing those things it would be safe to say that we need triple the amount of players playing in the USA as we do now. I think that we should make a 6 month campaign in each of our cities to advertise and recruit players to play the game. Would that warrant Cactus to start making not one but 2 sets every year? Would that make it acceptable for Cactus to create different formats with legal sets in each? A banned list??? With all of these thoughts in so many of our heads we can't forget how Redemption was created. Rob Anderson didn't like how so many of the TCG's in the world had to be played. Like the "other" TCG (decreasing your life total till your dead). Rob created Redemption for a friendly purpose. A holy purpose if you will. He wanted to spread the word, on every card, of the most read and owned book in the whole world. He wanted people to meet "NEW" people so the Word could be spread. Remember that Redemption is supposed to be a "Friendly" game. Don't loose sight of that.

To all players of Redemption "Have FUN and play well with others!"

P.S. I don't want to start a new argument and anything I have said wasn't to prove a point. This is just my general opinion on the subject and I can wait to see what the new stater set has in store for the meta game.

Thank you,

Nate

The problem is not that counters aren't made, its that people don't use them. If we make hard counters to the best offenses, people won't use them for the simple fact that they don't want to stop their own offenses, and instead would rather rely on their decks being a step ahead of the others. We made Image of Jealousy, Destructive Sin, Axe, and Land Dispute all in the set right after TGT. People chose not to use them. Then we made Golgotha, CP and Chorazin to stop both key facets of TGT decks: territory destruction and ignore. Still people didn't use them. Finally, this past year we made ASA. Did that solve the TGT issue? Maybe, or maybe TGT was less of a factor because more players were using other strategies.

As for Thaddeus, there were plenty of counters designed with him in mind: CwD, Tower of Thebez, Stone of Thebez, and Iron Pan. We can make all the counters we want, but people need to use them for them to be effective. But they also need to be balanced, else formerly OP strats become unplayable, in which case there was no point in having them in the first place.

I assure you (and everyone) that the meta counters we are coming up with this time around will be playable and effective. What I cannot assure is that people will use them. I hope they do, but the only thing playtesters can do is make them. Without drastically changing deck-building/gameplay rules, that's just the way it will continue to be.

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FWIW, Martin used Naz, which is one of the single best counters to The Deck. A first turn Naz is killer.

Your solution is adding game 2/3 with sideboard. Then you will see the counters mass used.

Why else do you think they spent the last set making sure every single brigade can draw 85 cards per turn and search and have characters that are protected from everything? Three game matches *and* a 45 minute time limit FTW.