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Quote from: Westy on August 16, 2012, 11:08:35 AMQuote from: Prof Underwood on August 16, 2012, 08:33:51 AMRegardless of what deck they chose, these guys were probably going to be at the top. So this year 7 of those 11 guys decided to run "The Deck", and they took half of the top 15 places with it. But if they had all ran TGT, or Disiciples, or Geneptians, or another good deck option, then I suspect that they still would have ended up in the top 15 with that.I disagree. Good players recognize what decks are good, and play them to increase their chances of winning. So 7 of the top 15 recognized "The Deck" as the best deck. If they (we?) thought there was a better one, they/we would have played that deck instead. So while some may have done just fine with another deck, it wouldn't be optimal.Correct. Players often "test drive" new cards as they are released, and see what works best together over the course of the year. It was a credit to the developers that so many different themes/decks lasted as long into the tournament season as they did. But it is absolutely to the credit of the players that they (once again) narrowed the field of "best decks" down to one by the national tournament.
Quote from: Prof Underwood on August 16, 2012, 08:33:51 AMRegardless of what deck they chose, these guys were probably going to be at the top. So this year 7 of those 11 guys decided to run "The Deck", and they took half of the top 15 places with it. But if they had all ran TGT, or Disiciples, or Geneptians, or another good deck option, then I suspect that they still would have ended up in the top 15 with that.I disagree. Good players recognize what decks are good, and play them to increase their chances of winning. So 7 of the top 15 recognized "The Deck" as the best deck. If they (we?) thought there was a better one, they/we would have played that deck instead. So while some may have done just fine with another deck, it wouldn't be optimal.
Regardless of what deck they chose, these guys were probably going to be at the top. So this year 7 of those 11 guys decided to run "The Deck", and they took half of the top 15 places with it. But if they had all ran TGT, or Disiciples, or Geneptians, or another good deck option, then I suspect that they still would have ended up in the top 15 with that.
All this talk of The Deck makes me laugh when I consider that it was a nearly decade old strategy that ended up winning the tournament.
Now it is up to the developers to make sure that "The Deck" will have a harder time winning nationals next year, while still allowing for a variety of decks to be popular and playable in the months leading up to nationals. The good news is that we have a window of time to get it right before the cards go to the printers.
Your solution is adding game 2/3 with sideboard. Then you will see the counters mass used.
Quote from: jbeers285 on August 15, 2012, 03:45:41 PMYeah which is boring to be honest and the main reason I converted to type-2 in less then a year of playing redemption. type-1 became so similar, the majority of people play the same deck with slight variations. Nothing interesting new or exciting about that.I have to say though, while The Deck was very successful (except in my hands, where it wasn't really the Deck's fault in at least 2 of the games I lost), there still was a relatively good variety of decks at the top.
Yeah which is boring to be honest and the main reason I converted to type-2 in less then a year of playing redemption. type-1 became so similar, the majority of people play the same deck with slight variations. Nothing interesting new or exciting about that.