Cactus Web Site special offer: Orders over $75 will receive a free Angel of God 2023 National Promo card while supplies last.
The problem with Watergarden was not the offense, it was the defense. John himself told me that it just doesn't get many blocks against the current meta offenses.
I will say chris the time I beat u I was playing gardensciples with 63 and heavy defense
I will hold until the day I die that TGT is the second best deck in the format. Why? Who plays defense? No meta deck can stand up to second turn TGT.
Quote from: Red on August 15, 2012, 10:38:17 PMI will hold until the day I die that TGT is the second best deck in the format. Why? Who plays defense? No meta deck can stand up to second turn TGT.Apparently the T1-2P National Champion plays defense.
Quote from: Gabe on August 15, 2012, 11:20:20 PMQuote from: Red on August 15, 2012, 10:38:17 PMI will hold until the day I die that TGT is the second best deck in the format. Why? Who plays defense? No meta deck can stand up to second turn TGT.Apparently the T1-2P National Champion plays defense. True dat. I still say TGT will never fall below tier one in this meta though.
'The Deck's (pretty tacky imo, needs a far more descriptive title)
Regardless of what deck they chose, these guys were probably going to be at the top. So this year 7 of those 11 guys decided to run "The Deck", and they took half of the top 15 places with it. But if they had all ran TGT, or Disiciples, or Geneptians, or another good deck option, then I suspect that they still would have ended up in the top 15 with that.
As far as "The Deck's" name, I labeled it as "Superband" in my Ipod before I realized that they had given it such a generic name.In fact, when Olijar and Ring Wraith were describing it, I thought they were using that term to just keep the offense hush-hush.
I found it interesting when I was checking in decks for T1-2P and most of them looked basically the same.
Quote from: Prof Underwood on August 16, 2012, 08:33:51 AMRegardless of what deck they chose, these guys were probably going to be at the top. So this year 7 of those 11 guys decided to run "The Deck", and they took half of the top 15 places with it. But if they had all ran TGT, or Disiciples, or Geneptians, or another good deck option, then I suspect that they still would have ended up in the top 15 with that.I disagree. Good players recognize what decks are good, and play them to increase their chances of winning. So 7 of the top 15 recognized "The Deck" as the best deck. If they (we?) thought there was a better one, they/we would have played that deck instead. So while some may have done just fine with another deck, it wouldn't be optimal.
Quote from: Gabe on August 16, 2012, 10:27:54 AMI found it interesting when I was checking in decks for T1-2P and most of them looked basically the same. Booorrrrinnng. This is why I don't go to Nats. This is what happened when I played ROOT for one month. I faced the exact same deck three times in a row from three different people. Never again.
That wasn't really my point. We have such creative and intelligent players in the Redemption community, to have so many of them use the same deck seems to be wasting that creativity, IMO. I understand the desire to win, but I just find it boring. That's all.