Author Topic: Evil Protect Forts (Read 2948 times)

Arrthoa · « **on:** April 27, 2013, 02:49:39 PM »

Those of you who have seen my latest threads in the New Card Ideas thread have seen that I am remaking cards from certain themes/civilizations. My question is which Protect Fort do you think needs to be redone the most?

Mageduckey · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2013, 02:55:22 PM »

I'd like to see Rome become a protect fort, instead of just giving first strike and NT EE usage. Both Gates shroud their kings in near-full protection, it would be nice if the Romans got something similar.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:07:16 PM »

Here my first shot.
Rome
Evil Fortress
X= # of Heroes in battle
First Strike. Protect Romans in your territory from decrease and opponent's characters. If more than one Hero is in battle, you may draw X (limit 2).

Mageduckey · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:12:10 PM »

Not sure how I feel about the CBN part, honestly. Also, first strike on all those 10/1 and 10/7 guys is part of their whole strategy; if Rome loses that, emperors lose a lot of their strength (as a sub theme).

Redoubter · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:21:24 PM »

I like the protection from conversion and opponent's characters, that is great. However, there should never be a TToD for evil, especially one that grants CBN to enhancements.

I would think a reprint of the old Rome that replaced the NT EE clause with the protection clause you gave would be a good one

Chris · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:27:58 PM »

Rome shouldn't be a standard protect fort, it should abandon the First Strike ability in favor of protecting all Roman evil characters in play from decrease, and keep the rest.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:30:42 PM »

TToD?

Updated

Mageduckey · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:32:42 PM »

Without first strike, all those 10/1 emperors have to use Heavy Taxes with 6-7+ cards in hand so it isn't a mutual with the hero winning. Imo, losing first strike ruins most of what the emperor sub theme is all about.

I also like the NT EE clause, but would rather see that go than lose the first strike ability.

TToD = The Throne of David

Chris · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:33:49 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 27, 2013, 03:30:42 PM

TToD?

The Throne of David.

Quote from: Mageduckey on April 27, 2013, 03:32:42 PM

Without first strike, all those 10/1 emperors have to use Heavy Taxes with 6-7+ cards in hand so it isn't a mutual with the hero winning.

I also like the NT EE clause, but would rather see that go than lose the first strike ability.

No way. Wrath of Satan all day erryday.

Mageduckey · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:36:23 PM »

As much as I like my emperors using power cards from other brigades, I still think the first strike ability is more important for the theme/current characters than using any NT EE.

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:43:25 PM »

Temple of Dagon is by far the worst theme Fortress.

Redoubter · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 27, 2013, 04:43:25 PM

Temple of Dagon is by far the worst theme Fortress.

Agreed...it is only useful for holding Altar of Dagon without using up your artifact pile. Conversion is what Philly's really fear, not capture

Arrthoa · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:50:43 PM »

Temple of Dagon
Evil Fort
Holds 1 Idol
Protect Philistines in territory from Conversion and Discard. If all your Philistines are Giants, Evil Banding abilities cannot be negated.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:56:48 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 27, 2013, 04:43:25 PM

Temple of Dagon is by far the worst theme Fortress.

Maybe if you don't play heroless...

TheJaylor · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2013, 05:04:15 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 27, 2013, 04:50:43 PM

Temple of Dagon
Evil Fort
Holds 1 Idol
Protect Philistines from Conversion and Discard. If all your Philistines are Giants, Evil Banding abilities cannot be prevented.

I really like that idea and could definitely see myself playing a Lahmi->Saph->Ishbibenob->(I feel like there's another but I'm not sure)->Goliath/12-Fingers/Garrison deck.

Redoubter · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2013, 05:07:01 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 27, 2013, 04:50:43 PM

Temple of Dagon
Evil Fort
Holds 1 Idol
Protect Philistines from Conversion and Discard. If all your Philistines are Giants, Evil Banding abilities cannot be prevented.

You didn't restrict it to territory

The current wording would protect them from conversion and discard in battle too. That would be, generally speaking, a bad thing

Quote from: KoalaKingoFA on April 27, 2013, 05:04:15 PM

I really like that idea and could definitely see myself playing a Lahmi->Saph->Ishbibenob->(I feel like there's another but I'm not sure)->Goliath/12-Fingers/Garrison deck.

CBP would still be negated by Goliath/12FG

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on April 27, 2013, 04:56:48 PM

Quote from: Gabe on April 27, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
Temple of Dagon is by far the worst theme Fortress.

Maybe if you don't play heroless...

Territory capture is just not potent enough to cause a problem, and that is the only thing it protects from. Also, in T2 where these guys can thrive, capture does nothing to stop you from being able to bring out another 12FG or Goliath, but conversion does.

If you don't think it's the worst evil theme fortress, then what is?

Arrthoa · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »

Quote from: KoalaKingoFA on April 27, 2013, 05:04:15 PM

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 27, 2013, 04:50:43 PM
Temple of Dagon
Evil Fort
Holds 1 Idol
Protect Philistines from Conversion and Discard. If all your Philistines are Giants, Evil Banding abilities cannot be prevented.
I really like that idea and could definitely see myself playing a Lahmi->Saph->Ishbibenob->(I feel like there's another but I'm not sure)->Goliath/12-Fingers/Garrison deck.

You covered all of them

TheJaylor · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2013, 05:13:10 PM »

Quote from: Redoubter on April 27, 2013, 05:07:01 PM

CBP would still be negated by Goliath/12FG

Right... Well there goes that idea... I don't see the harm in making it CBN... and being able to hold Household Idols...

Arrthoa · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2013, 05:17:14 PM »

It's now CBN. Where's the harm in having it hold HHI? You can hurt most banding offenses

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Author Topic: Evil Protect Forts (Read 2948 times)

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