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Title: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 10, 2008, 03:52:14 PM
Is it just me, or is white brigade suddenly becoming super powerful, what with the musicians and all? I mean, at first I didn't think being able to use music enhancements was that great, but now with Musicians' Chambers, David's Music, Sing and Praise, Protection of Angels, and all the new musicians being able to use the enhancements again and again, it seems the musician theme is really building up.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Lozo777 on August 10, 2008, 03:58:20 PM
Hmmm, Kinda Lame if you ask me. Musicians vs. Demons.....  ???
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TimMierz on August 10, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
Discussing musicians with someone after the tournament yesterday, it seems a good musician offense would be strongly effective against a lot of common strategies and a lot of uncommon ones. :) As long as Moses and King David are prophets, there's a whole lot of awesome going on.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: uthminister [BR] on August 10, 2008, 04:02:08 PM
Well if you read the story of David's encounter with King Saul, it was David's music that soothed him as he was being spiritually tormented. It seems very appropriate to me. And for the record, Brian Reid had a great "Musician" themed deck almost a year ago and was beginning to work out the kinks to make it devastating. I cannot imagine what he would have done with this new set!  R.I.P.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 10, 2008, 04:40:35 PM
Hmmm, Kinda Lame if you ask me. Musicians vs. Demons.....  ???
Dude...DAVID'S MUSIC!
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 10, 2008, 10:57:20 PM
Becoming? 7-3 at last nationals seems more like it has been since the begining.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 10, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
Heman
Asaph
Ethan
Angel in the Path (Wa)
Chenaiah
Jeiel
Moses
King David


Wow. Nice offense we could use there.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 09:25:39 AM
Yeah, the NT women are kinda nice. I'm just not a big fan of ignore and immune abilities myself.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on August 11, 2008, 12:43:54 PM
Yeah, the NT women are kinda nice. I'm just not a big fan of ignore and immune abilities myself.

Ignores are teh pwnz.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
Priestly breastplate can completely ruin it, though.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on August 11, 2008, 03:24:51 PM
not with iatruth
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TimMierz on August 11, 2008, 03:26:56 PM
I Am Truth: "Good enhancements with "ignore" in the special ability cannot be negated by evil cards."

I wouldn't worry about people using Priestly Breastplate though. I'd be more concerned about the anti-ignore LS personally.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 03:33:49 PM
Yeah, I was getting to that, too. Also, ignoring doesn't really do much unless your strength is higher than your opponet's defense, or if you have some battle winner to play after you play an ignore card. :dunno:
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 11, 2008, 04:15:09 PM
Umm, Ignore=win the battle. Your thinking immune.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 04:17:36 PM
Oh, maybe I was, but I still thought ignore meant...ignore, not win.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TimMierz on August 11, 2008, 04:19:01 PM
You act as if the opposing side is not there. For offense, that means it's like no one is blocking your rescue attempt, which usually equates to a win.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
But if the Hero isn't killing the EC, how can it be winning? I guess I thought "ignore" was like "immune". :miss:
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TimMierz on August 11, 2008, 04:37:11 PM
They have some similarities. They are both protect-type abilities and they both stop the other side from hurting you. But ignore goes a bit in a different direction:

- You cannot target the ignored character
- The numbers in battle are not taken into account
- If a Hero ignores all blocking Evil Characters, the rescue attempt is successful
- If an Evil Character ignores all rescuing Heroes, the block is successful

The rulebook also describes a situation in detail:
Quote
You are rescuing with Servant Angel, a silver brigade Hero with abilities of 5/6 and the special ability, “Holder may draw a card.” After you play Servant Angel into the Field of Battle, you immediately draw a card. Your opponent then blocks with Shechem, a pale green brigade Evil Character with abilities of 6/7. Since Servant Angel is losing, you have initiative and play The Sixth Seal, a silver brigade enhancement with abilities of 2/2 and the special ability, “Hero ignores pale green brigade.” Servant Angel will pass by Shechem as though Shechem is not there and will make a successful rescue. Your opponent must negate the “ignore” special ability or the rescue will succeed, and each character will be returned to his owner’s territory.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on August 11, 2008, 08:18:47 PM
Discussing musicians with someone after the tournament yesterday, it seems a good musician offense would be strongly effective against a lot of common strategies and a lot of uncommon ones. :) As long as Moses and King David are prophets, there's a whole lot of awesome going on.
I actually am not using King David yet. but the deck does work. I beat a speed deck after coming back from 4-0. I also beat a heroless. the one loss I had was to Egyptians anti-egyptian deck. plus I need site access. I'll have my deck up soon
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 11, 2008, 08:26:18 PM
They have some similarities. They are both protect-type abilities and they both stop the other side from hurting you. But ignore goes a bit in a different direction:

- You cannot target the ignored character
- The numbers in battle are not taken into account
- If a Hero ignores all blocking Evil Characters, the rescue attempt is successful
- If an Evil Character ignores all rescuing Heroes, the block is successful

The rulebook also describes a situation in detail:
Quote
You are rescuing with Servant Angel, a silver brigade Hero with abilities of 5/6 and the special ability, “Holder may draw a card.” After you play Servant Angel into the Field of Battle, you immediately draw a card. Your opponent then blocks with Shechem, a pale green brigade Evil Character with abilities of 6/7. Since Servant Angel is losing, you have initiative and play The Sixth Seal, a silver brigade enhancement with abilities of 2/2 and the special ability, “Hero ignores pale green brigade.” Servant Angel will pass by Shechem as though Shechem is not there and will make a successful rescue. Your opponent must negate the “ignore” special ability or the rescue will succeed, and each character will be returned to his owner’s territory.
Okay, thank you for taking the time to clear that up for me. I'm still a noob. :P
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: JSB23 on August 24, 2008, 12:59:35 AM
Musicians own period.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 15, 2008, 10:57:39 PM
i know i mean im using musicains and guess what i made three sucsesfull rescue atemps and i dont even have heman the king of musicains i just made rescue atemps with cheneniah and asaph and that good i mean if thos two can stand alone think how much they cando with enh  :o
sorry, but Heman isn't that good compared to Asaph.  mainly because musicians chambers.  I named my zune after Asaph. cuz Asaph pwns all.  Protection of Angels cannot be negated?  yes, please.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: The Schaef on September 15, 2008, 11:02:02 PM
I actually find Heman still quite useful in my musician's deck.  The day you don't draw your Chambers until the bottom of your deck and you've got four battle winners in your hand that you can't use, you'll see the value of Heman, even in a world where Chambers exists.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 27, 2008, 10:02:35 AM
I actually find Heman still quite useful in my musician's deck.  The day you don't draw your Chambers until the bottom of your deck and you've got four battle winners in your hand that you can't use, you'll see the value of Heman, even in a world where Chambers exists.
four? Sing and Praise, David's Music, Protection of Angels... what am I missing?
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 27, 2008, 10:05:18 AM
I named my zune after Asaph.

Well, that explains everything. Who buys a Zune?  ;)
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 27, 2008, 03:20:36 PM
I actually find Heman still quite useful in my musician's deck.  The day you don't draw your Chambers until the bottom of your deck and you've got four battle winners in your hand that you can't use, you'll see the value of Heman, even in a world where Chambers exists.
four? Sing and Praise, David's Music, Protection of Angels... what am I missing?
Royal parade.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: The Schaef on September 27, 2008, 06:14:40 PM
four? Sing and Praise, David's Music, Protection of Angels... what am I missing?

Stop being so literal.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 27, 2008, 06:26:48 PM
I just thought I missed something in my musician deck... I was really worried.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 27, 2008, 06:54:03 PM
Seriously, Musicians' Chambers + Protection of Angels + Asaph = sure win!!!
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 27, 2008, 07:23:45 PM
Seriously, Musicians' Chambers + Protection of Angels + Asaph = sure win!!!
my Huge Egyptian laughs at you
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: The Schaef on September 27, 2008, 08:43:04 PM
Cymbals of the Levites can cancel Huge Egyptian, and Ethan can get back any discarded Enhancements.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 27, 2008, 09:23:46 PM
Asaph is still better then Ethan... I was just saying that protection doesn't do much good without the band
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: The Schaef on September 27, 2008, 09:27:42 PM
I don't think any of them are "better than" any other.  I rely on all of their abilities to one degree or another.

You're right that protection by itself is of limited use, but I have found a number of ways to get people wondering how they suddenly found themselves losing numerically and not having any more cards they can play that battle.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 27, 2008, 09:42:29 PM
there has to be a top musician out of those three... I will be on a quest to find it!

but I have found a number of ways to get people wondering how they suddenly found themselves losing numerically and not having any more cards they can play that battle.
ooo please tell
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: JSB23 on September 27, 2008, 09:49:12 PM
chennia (did I spell it right?) is the best one in my opinion
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 28, 2008, 07:43:31 AM
Again,
Quote from: someone who is apparently an administrator, and thus of whom I am deeply terrified, because people in charge tend to yell at me for things a lot..........
I don't think any of them are "better than" any other.  I rely on all of their abilities to one degree or another.
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: Warrior_Monk on September 28, 2008, 08:38:03 AM
chennia (did I spell it right?) is the best one in my opinion
there has to be a top musician out of those three
firstly, no you didn't spell in right... just call him Kenny. secondly it's out of the Priest Master Musicians.
Again,
Quote from: someone who is apparently an administrator, and thus of whom I am deeply terrified, because people in charge tend to yell at me for things a lot..........
I don't think any of them are "better than" any other.  I rely on all of their abilities to one degree or another.
so you're... ... agreeing with him?
Title: Re: Musicians Becoming Powerful
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 28, 2008, 09:37:26 AM
Yeah...
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