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Are Mulligans (shuffle hand back into deck, draw Hand -1 cards) allowed?

Are Mulligans (shuffle hand back into deck, draw Hand -1 cards) allowed?

They are not allowed in official tournament play.

no, it wouldnt. mayhem would still be highly used.

They're something to consider.

I think Mulligans should be used. Only your lost souls would have to stay out and you would have to draw 6 or 7.

Though I do thoroughly DESPISE drawing all/most of my Souls in the first hand... Though I'm pretty sure everyone does...

If you don't keep your lost souls out then everyone could just draw eight, if they got lost souls they could mulligan and their lost souls go back. Bad idea. You would have to keep lost souls out so this would not happen.

This could be abused as a way to actually get rid of LSs drawn though.  If you mulligan'd the maximum number of times you would draw 8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1 = 36 cards (and probably another 5-6 LSs).  On top of this you could play a Mayhem at some point that you draw it, bringing out even more cards.  If you have the shuffler LS in your deck it is likely to come out.  You can then simply stop mulligan'ing as soon as you draw your SoG (which you use to take your shuffler).  Thus you always start the game without any LSs on the table.  A player with a defense heavy deck would do this all the time.

There could be be limits on the number of Mulligans.  I do believe that LS should stay out regardless.

Mulligan is always once I thought. 

Hey,

If you're finding yourself in a situation where you regularly wish you could mulligan, build a better deck (preferably with more defense).  If you're finding yourself in a situation where you rarely wish you could mulligan but those rare occasions are costing you tournament wins then bug your host about running more than the minimum number of rounds.

Redemption does not need mulligans.  Mulligans would be bad for Redemption.  That's my opinion.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

false. many pro mtg players use paris mulligans. its one of the absolute best ways to cut down on the luck factor of a ccg.

Quote from: Master KChief on July 01, 2010, 01:50:34 PM

its one of the absolute best ways to cut down on the luck factor of a ccg.

^This.  If I want luck, I'll go play Texas Hold-Em.

Redemption has a really big luck factor though. More than any other ccgs I have played.

A magic player sees a smaller percentage of their deck in any given game than a Redemption player does.

again, not true. roughly 30% of a typical mtg deck is lands, so thats largely a chunk of the same stuff there. not only that, but mtg also allows 4 copies of any given card, which many pro players will max out on. while it may be true redemption comes out on top in the sheer number of cards, in terms of an mtg player actually 'seeing' more of their deck mtg has redemption beat.

mulligans are used to minimize bad luck on opening draws, in which case the draw mechanics of the ccg are completely moot. you may have a better chance at drawing into something good on subsequent turns, but this has nothing to do with the first hand. redemption also utilizes a game-winning system that is dependent upon the opponent as well (while mtg does not), which further increases the bad luck associated with the game. a horrible opening hand in redemption is more times than not an uphill battle.