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Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« on: May 19, 2012, 03:59:56 PM »
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I'm new to redemption and have a few question about how certain cards can be played in relation to each other.

First . . . If Moses is in play (blocking all abilities and enhancements) can the Son of God be used to rescue a lost soul at that time?

Second . . . If the other player has played James son of Zebedee and John banded together can I play Herod Agrippa I (which has the affect of James Son of Zebedee being discarded) at that time to break up the banding?

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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »
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First . . . If Moses is in play (blocking all abilities and enhancements) can the Son of God be used to rescue a lost soul at that time?

Yes. Dominants cannot be negated.

Second . . . If the other player has played James son of Zebedee and John banded together can I play Herod Agrippa I (which has the affect of James Son of Zebedee being discarded) at that time to break up the banding?

No. John's ability prevents Herod Agrippa's ability.

Also note that discarding a character does not "undo" the banding. Only negating the band will remove it.

« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 04:45:26 PM by YourMathTeacher »
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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 04:36:40 PM »
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No. John's ability negates prevents Herod Agrippa's ability.
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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 06:52:11 PM »
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If I did play a "discard hero" card and played it against a banded hero, does the card that is banded get discarded AFTER the battle where it has been banded? 


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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 10:24:58 PM »
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If I did play a "discard hero" card and played it against a banded hero, does the card that is banded get discarded AFTER the battle where it has been banded?

I'm not entirely sure I know what you mean, but I will say that discard abilities are instant abilities. The discard takes place immediately after you play the card. Is that what you are asking?
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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 11:51:38 PM »
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Also note that discarding a character does not "undo" the banding. Only negating the band will remove it.
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Sorry for not being more clear.  I was following up on what was said about "discarding a character does not undo the banding"

If I play a "discard hero" card on a hero that is currently in battle and banded, does that hero get discarded right then or at the end of the battle?

Hope that makes more sense.


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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 08:43:47 AM »
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If I play a "discard hero" card on a hero that is currently in battle and banded, does that hero get discarded right then or at the end of the battle?

That is the question I addressed with my previous post, since that is initially what I thought you meant:

...but I will say that discard abilities are instant abilities. The discard takes place immediately after you play the card.

So, you do not wait until the end of battle.
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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 11:37:50 AM »
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Does that banding still stay intact until the end of the battle?  Or does that end with the discard as well?  I think in a previous post you said the banding would still be in place till the end of the battle, but I just wanted to be sure.

Thanks again for your patience . . .

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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 01:34:31 PM »
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Does that banding still stay intact until the end of the battle?  Or does that end with the discard as well?  I think in a previous post you said the banding would still be in place till the end of the battle, but I just wanted to be sure.

Banding is an instant ability. It happens immediatey, and then it is done. The banding is not an ongoing ability that has to be kept active (so to speak). The banding ability just gets the character into battle, it does not keep them there.

The discard does not affect the banding. Only a negate will "undo" the banding, unless the banding says "cannot be negated." As you will find in Redemption, though, there are always exceptions to this general rule. For instance, a "Choose the Rescuer" ability would replace the original hero, thus indirectly undoing the banding. However, discard is not one of those exceptions.
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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 08:46:27 PM »
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Thanks again for the help!

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Re: Moses and The Son Of God + John & James Banded Question
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 09:01:18 PM »
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Thanks again for the help!

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