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Inconsistent with Assyria's Tribute.

I was about to disagree with you, then I saw it has an errata disguised as a play as:

Ark of the Covenant (Ki)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Regardless of battle outcome one Evil Character an opponent uses to block a rescue attempt is discarded at the end of battle. Limit holder to two such discards per game. • Play As: Regardless of battle outcome, discard one Evil Character in play at the end of battle that your opponent used to block your rescue attempt. May be used once per battle and twice per game. • Identifiers: OT, Tabernacle Item, Temple Item • Verse: Numbers 10:35 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Ultra Rare)

Under the original wording, RED and Gabe would be correct. Under the play as, I would think its closer to Assyria's Tribute.

So in other words, yet ANOTHER example of a play as that should simply be ignored.

One of my new favorite combos. Gates out. Manasseh to wandering to temptation to elymus. d/c demon in territory goes to bottom pop him back out next battle almost a auto block. then you can use things like 2k horses and play like confusion and all that junk.

One of my new favorite combos. Gates out. Manasseh to wandering to temptation to elymus. d/c demon in territory goes to bottom pop him back out next battle almost a auto block. then you can use things like 2k horses and play like confusion and all that junk.

Does this really work?  You didn't actually discard the demon, so did you pay Elymas' cost? 

Maybe this is an I Am Holy/Chamber issue...  But it just seems to me that if you don't pay the exact cost, then you shouldn't get the benefit.  "Instead" in this case makes it so the exact cost is not paid.

Quote from: Red on September 08, 2010, 07:34:21 PM

One:It's Red now

Do you care?

Not really coulda posted a 

HTemple specifies opponent's abilities. Trust me, if it worked like that I would have abused it since Di came out.

As of right now, yes, since IaH+Chamber still works. But I think the mechanics of "instead" are under heavy discussion.

Can anyone give me a twelve card defense for a King Mannasseh?

Depends on what you want it to do. There's dual-horsing, CBN return abuse, standard, Herod's Mantropolis, abuse, and mandemonium.

man/demon/ium sounds good. PM please?

A 12 card Mandemonium defense would look something like this:

Manasseh
Seven Wicked Spirits
Wandering Spirit
Elymas
Spirit of Temptation
Two Thousand Horses
Golgotha
Death of Unrighteous
Forgotten History
Torment
King of Tyrus
Gates of Jerusalem

12 cards is super-super small, though.

Depends on the rest of the deck.

how about 20ish with a TGT?

I still haven't seen a Philly defense. I've seen Philly Garrison and Armor Bearer, and 12 FG, with Philly Outpost, and the occasional Land Dispute, but nothing more.