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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Topic started by: megamanlan on March 30, 2011, 10:12:20 PM
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I am wondering, Can someone explain to me why Laban is a Syrian/Armianian and a Magician?
Also what is the Deffinition of a Magician in Redemption?
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yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.
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He was in fact a magician. I don't know the Biblical reference for that.
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yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.
False. He used divination, which is why the promo Laban is gray/pale green.
1. Genesis 30:27
But Laban said to him, “If I have found favor in your eyes, please stay. I have learned by divination that the LORD has blessed me because of you.”
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Why is he a Syrian/Armianian? Where does that come from?
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He still couldn't be a magician based on the hebrew which has multiple meanings. Including to learn by experience.
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yeah he wasn't a magician but he was syrian.
False. He used divination, which is why the promo Laban is gray/pale green.
1. Genesis 30:27
But Laban said to him, “If I have found favor in your eyes, please stay. I have learned by divination that the LORD has blessed me because of you.”
lol. Is that why he is a magician? That's quite a foggy verse for such a judgement.
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+1 it isn't even KJV(A very accurate tranlastion imo)
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+1 it isn't even JKV(A very accurate tranlastion imo)
JKV? Jing Kames Version>>>>A Igree.
(the redemption cards are kjv)
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If they stop using KJV cause of laban I'd be mad.(Why did I not notice that?)
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The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.
Can be found here (http://www.jesuswalk.com/jacob/3_haran.htm), under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."
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The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.
Can be found here (http://www.jesuswalk.com/jacob/3_haran.htm), under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."
It has more than one meaning. It can literally mean to learn by experience. I trust a Key reference bible more than a website.
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If Laban was Practicing divination then I agree with him being a Magician, but why is he a Syrian/Arminian?
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Because he lived in Syria.
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The word "divination" (NIV, NRSV), "experience" (KJV) is nāḥash, "seek and give an omen, practice divination." Divination is the heathen act of gaining understanding about the present or future by means of signs or omens.
Can be found here (http://www.jesuswalk.com/jacob/3_haran.htm), under the "Jacob Negotiates with Laban."
It has more than one meaning. It can literally mean to learn by experience. I trust a Key reference bible more than a website.
Please don't pull out the translation argument. I prefer ESV over KJV. The main reason Cactus uses KJV over anything else is KJV is free.
Plus, I don't see "experience" really fitting into this context.
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I'm no longer going to argue seeing as no one wants to budge ground on the issue. We are both correct so why argue.
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Where does it say he lived there? Because I thought Syria became a country during or after Jews was in captivity in Egypt.
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And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.
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I'd go to Syria to ask, but they're just as safe as Libya.
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Isn't Syria in France?
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No. Syria is it's own country.
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Are you Syrias?
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Isn't Syria in France?
I sure hope not, withdraw abilities are overrated.
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Because he lived in Syria.
Wow I would've never guessed that, I thought Laban lived in Antartica. ;D
Syria is below Turkey and to the left of Iraq on a map.
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Yea!
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Actually, the KJV pretty much clearly states that he was Syrian:
And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.
The fact that the KJV doesn't mention divination directly isn't really too troubling. Redemption often uses extra-Biblical sources to confirm identifiers of certain characters (i.e. Herods are Roman). As long as the sources are historically accurate and don't conflict with the truth of the Bible, they are acceptable. For this situation, we used a different translation of the Bible, which should be even more compelling for a Bible-based card game than extra-biblical sources.