Author Topic: Judas Iscariot/Heretics (Read 4671 times)

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **on:** November 29, 2011, 04:46:04 PM »

How many enhancements pertain to Judas?

I know of Thievery of Judas, but I thought that there wasanother one. Is there?

Also, what are some heretic cards that are pertinant to a heretic defence? (besides the 3 musketeers, of course)

browarod · « **Reply #1 on:** November 29, 2011, 04:47:40 PM »

Pretty much all the crimson from the Disciples set is for Heretics. Wolves in Sheep's Clothing, Satan Enters Judas (if you're splashing demons in), Judas' Plot, Thievery of Judas, etc. Several of them relate to Judas as well, so that answers both your questions, lol.

Red Wing · « **Reply #2 on:** November 29, 2011, 04:56:42 PM »

I'd say Torment, Marketplace, and Escape (AW) would help a Heretic defense.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:13:58 PM »

What do the following cards do?:

Judas' plot
Satan Enters Judas
Escape (AW)

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:18:24 PM »

Here is my defence: King Zimri
Evil Spawn (priests, orange) (probably going to come out)
Scribe(Probably going to come out)
False Teacher
Creeping Deceiver
Philetus
Leviathan
Judas Iscariot
Saul (its a saul/paul deck)

Midianite Attack
Four Horns
Dream
Christian Suing Another
Thievery of Judas
Imitating Evil
Great Image
Treachery of Jezebel
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing
Murmuring (probably going to come out)
Hating the Light

Red Wing · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:25:59 PM »

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on November 29, 2011, 05:13:58 PM

What do the following cards do?:

Judas' plot Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: Territory • Special Ability: Place on your N.T. human Evil Character: If an opponent's good Dominant rescues or discards a card, discard this Enhancement instead to place that Dominant under deck. Protect bearer from conversion. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Mark 14:10 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()

Satan Enters Judas Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Orange/Crimson • Ability: 2 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Interrupt the battle. If used by a human, band to a demon. If used by a demon, band to a human. Cannot be negated if used by Judas Iscariot. • Identifiers: NT, Connected with Demons • Verse: John 13:27 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()

Escape (AW) Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and return your Evil Character to your hand. • Play As: Interrupt the battle and withdraw your Evil Character. Place Evil Character in your hand. • Identifiers: OT, Connected with Demons • Verse: I Kings 12:18 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Common)

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on November 29, 2011, 05:18:24 PM

Here is my defence: King Zimri
Evil Spawn (priests, orange) (probably going to come out)
Scribe(Probably going to come out)
False Teacher
Creeping Deceiver
Philetus
Leviathan
Judas Iscariot
Saul (its a saul/paul deck)

Midianite Attack
Four Horns
Dream
Christian Suing Another
Thievery of Judas
Imitating Evil
Great Image
Treachery of Jezebel
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing
Murmuring (probably going to come out)
Hating the Light

I'd definitely include Belshazzar's Banquet, Nebby's Pride, & all the Di sites except Chorazin unless you intend to use curses.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:29:46 PM »

First of all, the ability you put for Judas' plot is actually the ability of thievery of judas.. not judas' plot... the one for satan enters judas was, what i believe the ability for judas' plot... what happened there? lol.

Nameless · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:31:33 PM »

Satan enters Judas you put as Thievery of Judas.

Red Wing · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:33:27 PM »

ah got them mixed up.

. Fixed

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2011, 05:57:41 PM »

well, i have leviathan in there, so that could work out pretty well

browarod · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2011, 06:42:50 PM »

The REG

For all your "what does X card do?" needs.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2011, 09:45:55 PM »

thanks!

SomeKittens · « **Reply #12 on:** November 30, 2011, 09:12:04 AM »

If you're playing T1, Heretics aren't much for a defense, especially a large one.

Red Wing · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2011, 09:19:26 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on November 30, 2011, 09:12:04 AM

If you're playing T1, Heretics aren't much for a defense, especially a large one.

. I would go Babs or Assyrians. Or Israelite Kings.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #14 on:** November 30, 2011, 09:27:24 AM »

The thing is, I like to make decks that other people rarely use (heretics in T1, for instance)... In my first 2 play tests, i have been somewhat successful. I am actually adding a few more heros than just saul paul now. I have AoCP (not promo) reach of desperation, trumplet blast, zeal for the lord for saul/paul, but now that i think about it, if i just incorporate thomas and joshua the high prest, i may not be in such a bad position. (and maybe throw in one coat of many colors)

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2011, 09:28:08 AM »

Since I made it a "Saul/Paul" deck, it has given me the chance to focus mainly on my heretics and defence.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2011, 09:33:06 AM »

Ouch. Heretics are a "protect and die" defense. They don't have the stopping power that a heroless offense needs.

Red Wing · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2011, 11:03:21 AM »

Again, I agree with Kittens. If you want to play Heroless, you need a defense that will last almost the whole game if needed.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2011, 03:54:24 PM »

I was losing at 4-0, and if i had more heroes, would have been able to come back and win. I have added a hero here and there, so that if i lose paul, its not the end of the world. My heretic defence actually does hold off for a substancial amount of time. Everytimeyou use that one heretic that removes a good card from opponents discard pile, just remove the good dominants. By the end of the game there is most likely many good dominants in their discard pile. Idk, it works for me. I am not going to change the mechanics of the deck, I'm just open to suggestions on how to increase its efficiency.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2011, 03:57:26 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on November 30, 2011, 11:03:21 AM

Again, I agree with Kittens. If you want to play Heroless, you need a defense that will last almost the whole game if needed.

Like I said, I'm daring. I like to use deck types that are not normally used and try to make them work. (I refuse to ever make a disciples or TGT deck ever.)

If I can make a deck with very few heroes and use heretics (in addition to other charachters...) then awesome. I am able to accomplish something few to no other people have. Especially if it is successful in winning games.

Red Wing · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2011, 03:59:53 PM »

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on November 30, 2011, 03:54:24 PM

I am not going to change the mechanics of the deck, I'm just open to suggestions on how to increase its efficiency.

Well if you want to improve, you probably should post in it T1 deck advice.

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on November 30, 2011, 03:57:26 PM

Quote from: Red Wing on November 30, 2011, 11:03:21 AM
Again, I agree with Kittens. If you want to play Heroless, you need a defense that will last almost the whole game if needed.

Like I said, I'm daring. I like to use deck types that are not normally used and try to make them work. (I refuse to ever make a disciples or TGT deck ever.)

If I can make a deck with very few heroes and use heretics (in addition to other charachters...) then awesome. I am able to accomplish something few to no other people have. Especially if it is successful in winning games.

I definitely understand that. A lot of the fun of Redemption comes from making decks especially creative ones.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:04:17 PM »

Yeah, once i make my final modifications, i plan on posting the whole thing in type 1 deck advice... I actually think this could be a very good deck. The only problem i've had in my 1-2 play tests is that i have a difficult time drawing my heroes. Especially when i only had saul/paul and Jepthah. and what happens when i draw my holy grail, but not my saul/paul, or vice versa? They both immediately become obsolete until i draw the other -_-

browarod · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:22:27 PM »

You could consider adding I Am Creator to have a way to search for your heroes.

Red Wing · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:23:05 PM »

Or Angel at Shur (P)

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:26:56 PM »

Yeah, perhaps i should take nazareth out....

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