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Why is this a problem?  Aren't we always looking for ways to get bigger decks more competitive (without encouraging decks that always time out)? 

This is a problem because bigger decks with little cost means less strategy in deck building. Under the current system, you either have to make hard choices deciding what is going to fit in your deck, or otherwise increase your deck size and embrace the risk that that entails (having extra cards between you and the cards you need the most, especially Son of God). In-game sideboarding completely eliminates having to make those tough decisions, and I don't believe actually reducing strategy is good for the game.

I still dont understand the problems you think in-game siding has... How does it "reduce" tough decisions? Your still swapping a card from where ever (still hasnt been decided) to your sideboard so your deck is still the same size much like a standard sideboard....

I'm still interested in trying this for the Apr/May ROOT assuming that we can come to some consensus on the specifics of in-game sideboarding by then

I've heard you say that month is regular rules. I would strongly prefer regular rules

This summer...something amazing. BE THERE!!!

So I should support bad ideas because I want good idea implemented? Why am I not allowed to express my disagreement with the idea being presented because I support some other idea?

Giving a minus one to his most recent post does not seem to express disagreement with the idea in general. You should have just stated that. Considering the most recent negativity toward Mark specifically, I took this post (which was from a two-month-old thread) as an olive branch. The immediate minuses seemed to be torching the branch. Red explained his position (if he was one of the minuses). You could have done the same.

Wow. You guys have given him thumbs down already and he just posted this. If you guys want changes to ROOT, then start supporting changes when they are offered. Next month in-game sideboarding... this summer time limits? 

The moment people started opposing in-game siding in this thread, the attitude of "you whiners should take what you can get" came up, and it's a little ridiculous. Your post is on a different topic but maintains the same theme. Supporting change for the sake of change doesn't do anything. We're supporting a specific kind of change, and if we don't get it, that doesn't mean we should suddenly start supporting change that we don't like.

I've heard you say that month is regular rules. I would strongly prefer regular rules

If we can't come to a consensus on this thread of how to experiment with this idea, then we probably will just run regular rules.  It's been a few months since we've done that, so it wouldn't be a bad time for it.

But there were several people on this thread who seemed to like the idea (not everyone of course), and we experimented with the between-game sideboarding already, so it only seemed fair to give this a chance as well.  I just wanted to let the people who were supportive of this idea know that I hadn't forgotten them, and that I am still willing to give this a shot next month.

It is also important that this Message Board not become a stomping ground on Mark. He is still our brother in Christ.

Thanks for the support YMT

What if a player had the one of 4 options after a soul was rescued from them?
A) Send 1 card in hand to sideboard and 1 card from sideboard to deck. Shuffle deck.
B) Send 2 cards in hand to sideboard and 1 card from sideboard to hand.
C) Send 2 cards from deck to sideboard and 1 card from sideboard to deck. Shuffle deck.
D) Send 3 cards from deck to sideboard and 1 card from sideboard to hand. Shuffle deck.

These ideas are a good place to start.  After playing the ROOT tournament with out-of-game sideboarding, and rereading some posts, I agree that sideboarded cards should not go straight to hand.  The possibility of this, I think, would lead to cards like Birth Foretold, TGT, Mayhem, Son of God, Gates of Samaria, etc. going into sideboards; cards that either can be overwhelmingly powerful if accessed at just the right time, or cards that are normally high-risk/high reward for which the risk of them can be reduced or eliminated. 

Smart players would gladly give up a LS and trade two cards in hand to grab Mayhem or TGT I think, if they deem it advantageous.  And I don't even want to think about playing a 154 card deck that can grab Gates of Hell or Gates of Samaria upon surrendering its first LS.

And based on the prior posts about how sideboards are really extensions of your deck, I think that the sideboarded card should be shuffled into deck.  Sideboards are extra cards in your deck that normally wouldn't be there; when an opponent rescues a LS from you, you get to make the choice "Is it worth shuffling an extra card in my deck that I might not draw?". 

If you do it and you don't draw the card, well, that is basically the same as not sideboarding at all.  You made the choice and it didn't pay off.  But you can't feel cheated, because that sideboarded card was never in your deck to start.

And I'm not saying that exchanging a card in hand to shuffle a sideboarded card into deck is the only option.  I also like Kirk's third option above, where you trade 2 cards in deck for one sideboarded card.  If this is done with every sideboard, though, that will take a lot of time, and also could make your deck technically illegal (with too many LS).

My two cents.