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For the C/D Starter Decks, I only found Roman Prison as potentially worth keeping as-is from what hasn't been reprinted already. Also I switched Obedience of Noah to go under C/D instead of the Unlimited as I realized it was in the C deck.

Next up is Apostles

I'll open it up with suggesting:

NT-Only Lost Soul (Acts 11:18)
Household Idols
Christian Suing Another
Burial Shroud
Zaccheus
Transfiguration
Good Samaritan
Ananias
Elders of Jerusalem (all 3)
Three Nails
Great Mourning
Wall of Protection
Ship to Cyprus
Unholy Writ

What do you guys think? Feel free to comment on this, any of the previous, or the next set, Patriarchs!

Thanks for the input! A number of the cards you listed have been reprinted already, and while I agree that it would be useful to have different versions of a card, I assume that the goal is to have 1 playable version of each card.

So, taking out those that have been reprinted, cards that I already listed, and cards that need obvious changes (ex: Emperor Nero needs warrior class and Gamaliel should be clay) here's what's left, which I'll add to the ongoing "master list":

A Roman Soldier's Faith
Angelic Rebellion
Benefiting from Troubles
Desertion
God's Provision
Face of Death
Herod Antipas
Hostility
Lacking Sleep
Lost Coin Found
Leper Colony
Sadducees (all art versions)
Sowing the Seed
Sanctifying Faith
Take as a Slave
The Meal in Emmaus
30 Pieces of Silver

Would love to have your continued input on other sets - thanks again!

That's super helpful, Crash! We already have the C/D and Apostles cards you listed that aren't reprints, so I'll use your Pats list to start that one off. Taking out the reprinted and ones clearly needing changed leaves us with:

Abraham's Servant to Ur
Balaam's Disobedience (Already LR)
Battle Cry
Blessings
Covenant of Noah
Covenant of Palestine
Covenant with Adam
Death of Unrighteous (Already LR)
Destruction of Nehushtan
Dream
Egyptian Wise Men
Haman's Plot
Joseph in Prison
Korah's Rebellion
Midianite Attack
Moses kills Egyptian
Pharaoh's Magicians
Sarah's Jealousy
Storehouse

Additionally, after going through the set myself, I think the following are also potentially worthy of keeping:

Ambush
Arrogance
Begging for Grain
Blue Tassels
Coercion
Death of Firstborn
Disobedience
Jacob's Ladder
Joseph's Brother's Scheme
Joseph's Silver Cup
Korah
Providing Angel
Water Shaft

Unless there's any other comments on Patriarchs, the next set is Kings!

Awesome, thanks Hobbit! I'll add it in! 

DoN needs a reprint, but it won't be identical, because it's worded backwards - it discards, then negates when it should be "negate and discard".

Egyptian Wise Men was reprinted in FoM - it only bands to Exodus Egyptians, but has Reserve access.

Haman's Plot will probably lose the rip component if it gets reprinted.

Thanks for the input on Patriarchs, guys. I updated the master list accordingly. For Kings, whew, it's a huge set. Here's what I've got for it:

Ambush the City
Angel’s Sword
Archers of Kedar
Asherah Pole
Bearing Bad News
Besieging the City
Captain of the Host
Chariots of the Sun
Chemosh
Coat of Mail
Dart
David’s Harp
Devourer
Displeased Philistines
Disuading Speech
Egyptian Archer
Fallen Warrior
Hadad Arises
Israel Pays Tribute
Josiah’s Covenant
King Ahaziah
King Jeroboam I
King Jotham
King Nadab
King Omri
King Rezin
King Zedekiah
Land Purchase
Lost Soul - Shuffler (Ezekiel 31:14)
Lost Soul - */4 or greater (II Chronicles 15:4)
Lost Soul - Hopper (II Chronicles 28:13) (already a Legacy Rare)
Lost Soul - Site Doubler (Psalm 1:4)
Michael (need a Daniel reference version)
Might of Angels
Mustering for War
Nebuzaradan
Paying Tribute
Plunderers
Political Bribes
Provisions
Raider’s Camp
Shimei’s Malicious Curse
Siege
Sisera
Spy (already a Legacy Rare)
Sword against Sword
Sword of the Lord
Syrian Archer
Syrian Victory
The Long Day
The Rabshakeh
Troops Discharged
Two Thousand Horses
United Army
Victory
Visions of Iddo the Seer
Words of Encouragement

Any other thoughts on Kings are welcome, or feel free to suggest cards from the next set: E/F Starters

As always, any suggestions on any sets is welcome...on to Angel Wars. (this should be a quick one  )

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List of Kings cards:


Kings:

Abiezer
Abishai
Abishai's Spear
Abner
Abner's Spear
Absalom (reprint needed)
Absalom's Soldiers (reprint needed)
Adino
Ahimaaz
Ahitophel (reprint needed)
Amasa (reprint needed)
Ambush the City
Angel of his Prescence
Angel of the Waters
Angel's Sword
Answered Prayer
Archers of Kedar
Ark of the Covenant
Artifacts Destoryed
Asherah Pole
Backward Shadow
Battle Prayer
Bearing Bad news
Benaiah
Beniah Snatches a spear
Besieging the City
Book of Hozai
Book of jasher
Bow and Arrow
Break down the Wall of Gath
Breastplate of Righteouness
Captain of the Host
Chemosh
Coat of Mail
Courage
Dart
David's Harp
David's Victory
Destruction of Babylon
Devourer
Displeased Philstines
Disuading Speech
Egyptain Archer
Ehud's Dagger
Elon
Evil Spirit
Faith of David
Fallen Warrior
five smooth stones
Gabriel
Gathering of Angels
Gibeonite Treaty
Glittering Sword
Glory of the lord
Helez
Helmet of Brass
Helmet of Salvation
Hezekiah's Signet Ring
Ira
Israel pays Tribute
Israelite Archer
jair
Jashobeam
Jashobeam's Spear
Jehu's Sword
Joshua burns the City
Josiah's covenant
Kerith Ravine
King abijah
King ahaz
King ahaziah
King Amaziah
King Amon
King Asa
King Ben-hadad 1st
King Elah
King Hezekiah
King hoshea
King Jehoahaz (5/7)
King Jehoram
King Jehoshaphat
King Jeroboam 1st
King Joash
King Joram
King josiah
King Jotham
King Menaham
King Nadab
King omri
King Pekahiah
King Rehoboam
King Rezin
King Saul (brown)
King Saul's Jealousy
King Sennacherib
King Shihsak
King So
King Tiglath pileseser 3rd
King Zedekiah
King Zimri
Land Purchase
LS (4 or greater)
LS (hopper)
LS (site doubler)
LS (shuffler)
Maharai
Michael
Might of Angels
Momentum change
Moral decline
Mustering for War (all versions)
Nebuzaradan
Paying Tribute
Pekah"s Blade
Plunderers
Pharoah neco (reprint needed)
Political bribes
Political Savvy
Posterity Removed
Prince Jonathan
Provisions
Put to Flight
Queen Maachah
Raider's Camp
Recruiting Officer
Rezon Arises
Saint of Virtue
Satan Released
Shadow of Death
sword against sword
sword
Struck with blindness
strength Revealed
spy
spear and shield
Sound the Trumpet
solomon dedicates temple
Sisera
siege
Shimei's Malicious Curse
shield of faith
Shamhuth
sword of the  lord
Syrian archer
syrian victory
Tekoan Woman
temple of nisroch
The Acts of Solomon
the long day (reprint needed)
The Rahshakeh
The Strong Angel
The Testimony
Tola
Tower
treasures of war
troops discharged
two thousand  horses
united army
valley of salt
valor of warriors
victory
Visions of iddo the seer
Wall's Collaspe
War officer
withered hand
woman of wisdom
words of encouragement
worship of milcom
King Shallum
King Pekahiah       (These five kings just for the 1/1 stats)
King Jehoiakin
KIng Jehoahaz
King Elah 

Angel Wars list:


Angel Wars:


angry travelers
Arianna
Balance
chamber of angels
commissioned
confused
consumed by doubt
dejected
demonic deception
demonic snare
Eli
Equipped for the Mission
evil advice
failed objective
Fear of Danger
Fearfulness
Habitation of demons
I am creator
I am Grace
I am Healing
I am holy
I am justice
I am Merch
I am Patience
I am Redemption
I am Salvation
I am Truth
in the clouds
Inumerable
Kira
LS (anti-burial)
LS ( anti-withdraw)
LS (demon discard)
LS (evicter)
LS (revealer)
LS (first round protect)
Lurking
Michael
Mission deviation
Multitude
All panic demons
outnumbered
Paladian the fighter
shadow (storehouse version)
Seemingly insignificant
Seeds of rebellion
seeds of doubt
rebellious
pushed back
Praise him moon
Possessed
spirit of doubt
spiriutal warfare
stealing
subject deserted
swift
swift beings
sword of the Guardian
the darkness
worshipping god
words of discouragement
Winds
weakness
torment
Threatened lives
The Stars
The pit

I would be very disappointed if most of those cards were reprinted as Legacy Rares. If this has turned into a list of every card that needs to be reprinted you might as well put every card on the list...

I don't think most of these cards should be reprinted as legacy rares. In my opinion I think if 3 upto 10 sets get rotated , then maybe they should make another "reprint set" with most of the cards listed on this forum and make then all easy to obtain.

For example one pack of the "reprinted cards from the previous sets on these lists on this topic"  would be 15 cards from the card pool of X amount of reprinted cards for $2 each pack or something like that.

@TP1 & Gabe - I agree, we should tighten up these lists to aim for cards that are at least somewhat close to the newest sets in terms of caliber. That's not to say that there shouldn't be niche/combo cards...it's just that I'm trying for this thread to be a community one and so I've been trying to just be a compiler for everyone and not eliminate cards that I personally don't feel belong on the list.

 @RC777 - thanks so much for the lists! With the above in mind, would you be willing to trim down your suggestions based on the aim of just selecting cards that are somewhat on par with cards from the most recent sets? Or for me or anyone else to help with that? This can go for any of the cards suggested so far by anyone, btw. Once again, I really appreciate your input!

Absolutely I can revise all of my lists to make them a little smaller at a later time.

I think the current plan is if there is set rotation, the legacy rares would be reprinted as part of the reprint set with borders instead of full art - so the cards would be available, but not as fancy.

On something like Foolish Advice, I'm not opposed to keeping the black one - I just don't think it will happen.

Going back to the list at the beginning:

Prophets:
I'm not sure False Dreams should be on the list - in 2P, if played while blocking, it restricts you, not your opponent. It's a functional card, but I'm not sure how many players would think through what it says.

Women:
I'm assuming the Female Only will fall under G/H?

C/D:
Priests Roman Prison has an ability and seems to be a better candidate to reprint, but even that could be improved.

Apostles:
No Pharisees?
Herod Antipas probably gets an upgrade to discard John the Baptist or the top card of the opponent's deck (similar to Herod Agrippa I in TEC), so he can do something if there's no John the Baptist.

Patriarchs:
Covenant with Adam should be blue, if it remains a Covenant (it's more of a Curse, really).
Jawbone seems too narrow - maybe if it always worked and was only CBN on Samson, instead of only working on Samson.
Pharaoh's Magicians should not be a draw. (It would be simplest as a straight reveal, but it could be a look and reveal evil.) And it needs to be part PG.
Protection of Jerusalem was reprinted in FF and that version is probably a better candidate for reprinting.