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I think that the new set, once it hits the printer, should be released here on the forums (and on RTS) so that people can start building decks. This is for a couple reasons, first and foremost being it will really rejuvenate the forums and give people something new to talk about. With the forums probably slower right now than they've been in years, having a chance to start deck building will really bring a lot of discussion back. Additionally, it will make it more justifiable to allow the cards to be used at Nats (if not earlier), because non-Elders will have had a lot of time to play with them, leveling the playing field significantly.

I think they should post the list as is, then let the community discuss and test the cards before printing them. After the travesties that were AUtO, Samuel, Isaiah, Matthew, Thaddeus, Foreign Sword, etc., I think having some additional oversight would be a good thing.

Well, its a starter deck...

I agree with CJSports. These are starter decks, so there can't be any complicated or convoluted SAs.

You can't say that starter decks won't change the game at all. G/H were pretty solid decks, and I imagine I/J will be even better will all the power creep. They may not be complicated, but they will be good. An artifact that says "Negate Search and Draw abilities." would be really simple, but incredibly good.

I'm still on the "Don't make them legal for nats" bandwagon. Might as well just skip the 2012 release and have a 2013 release. I doubt they'll release this set now and another set at nats. No way do they have time or money for all of that. Which means you really don't need an early release of the list.

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on March 04, 2013, 06:48:41 PM

I agree with CJSports. These are starter decks, so there can't be any complicated or convoluted SAs.

If there are then we have a problem within the playtesters...The entire point of starter decks is to NOT be convoluted or complicated. 

Several play testers have stated that they have found it easier to teach new players with the new starter decks than G/H. I would trust they know what they are doing. The more convoluted cards will show up in the extended tin and as promos.

Kirk

The more convoluted cards will show up in the extended tin and as promos.

That's where my uncertainty lies. I'm sure they can make decent non-game breaking starter decks, but I'm concerned about the possibility of the contents of the extended tins.

Several play testers have stated that they have found it easier to teach new players with the new starter decks than G/H. I would trust they know what they are doing.

They are far more balanced and simple when compared to G/H decks to say the least. G/H decks were borderline broken depending on when the G deck got out Moses, Red Dragon, Sapphira and when the H deck got out James/John.

Quote from: Chris on March 04, 2013, 03:18:54 PM

I think that the new set, once it hits the printer, should be released here on the forums (and on RTS) so that people can start building decks.

You've mentioned the idea of releasing the new cards on RTS a couple times. I've gone to bat for you and asked Rob if he would consider it. There is nothing official yet, but he is open to the idea. If we're allowed to do that it could mean the real cards will be legal sooner after their official release as a result. Of course I will let you know as soon as I can when anything official is decided.

Thank you wo much; pretty much everything you said was the logic behind the suggestion, so I appreciate it.

My guess is that you couldn't simply combine the two decks, because there will be repeating dominant cards (at the very least Son of God). Perhaps subbing in a few of the tin cards also being released could make something valid though.

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So my question is could you combine two of one of the decks and still (in theory) have a type 2 starter deck

Im not sure why hi spost got a -1 response either. Im sure he's asking if you put together 2 of I or 2 of J not putting both together...

Yes, sorry I didn't make my self clear I had forgotten the names  . But, yes this is what I mean: Could you put two J's together and two I's together and it would be a (at least) descent tool to teach and start type two. If any of the playtesters would test this I would be in their debt but I was just wondering.

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KingLeo

Since the starter decks are done, can we see em? pleeeaaaassseee!!!!!

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on April 05, 2013, 10:24:08 AM

Since the starter decks are done, can we see em? pleeeaaaassseee!!!!!

There's only one person who gets to make that decision. 

Can we at least get articles?

Why is rob so hesitant to release information? Barely 2 years with almost no information or hype seems like it would hurt the game pretty bad.