Author Topic: Article #4 posted - Hosea (Read 8195 times)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2011, 08:05:13 PM »

I must say, I am very glad for all the soul generation in this set. Lack of soul access is probably my least favorite part of any game. I hope Heretics feel the hurt.

Master KChief · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2011, 08:18:59 PM »

too bad he cant hit creeping deceiver.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:09:20 PM »

pic not showing up for me either.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #28 on:** August 01, 2011, 12:26:27 AM »

It wouldn't show up for me at work, but it seems fine on my home lappy.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #29 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:39:05 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on July 31, 2011, 08:18:59 PM

too bad he cant hit creeping deceiver.

He might not be able to capture him, but he generates a soul that is not in a site.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:49:11 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 01, 2011, 08:39:05 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on July 31, 2011, 08:18:59 PM
too bad he cant hit creeping deceiver.
He might not be able to capture him, but he generates a soul that is not in a site.

That's what I was assuming you meant, too. Hosea creates an OT LS, which helps get around heretics in general. Hosea also helps create LSs not in a site to help avoid site lock-out.

That's why I suggested self-capture, to make sure that a NT heretic defense can still be circumvented.

Nameless · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:52:15 AM »

If you really needed to you could capture one of your own characters.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:58:21 AM »

Quote from: Nameless on August 01, 2011, 08:52:15 AM

If you really needed to you could capture one of your own characters.

That's what "self-capture" is.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #33 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:46:10 AM »

Too bad you can't use Raider's camp with him.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:57:58 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on August 01, 2011, 10:46:10 AM

Too bad you can't use Raider's camp with him.

Well, technically, he is the polar opposite of Raider's Camp. He is trying to generate LSs for rescue rather than prevent LSs from rescue. But, I know what you meant.

Just use my other example of capturing your own Disciples from Fishing Boat with Persian Presidents and put them in Raider's Camp, then get them back after your opponent's rescue if you really need that kind of thrill.

Korunks · « **Reply #35 on:** August 01, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 01, 2011, 10:57:58 AM

Well, technically, he is the polar opposite of Raider's Camp. He is trying to generate LSs for rescue rather than prevent LSs from rescue. But, I know what you meant.

Just use my other example of capturing your own Disciples from Fishing Boat with Persian Presidents and put them in Raider's Camp, then get them back after your opponent's rescue if you really need that kind of thrill.

wow I missed that play completly. My little brother will be thrilled, he likes his persians.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2011, 12:52:56 PM »

Quote from: Korunks on August 01, 2011, 11:56:23 AM

wow I missed that play completly. My little brother will be thrilled, he likes his persians.

Persians are fun, even if they don't necessarily win the game.

Since you will be adding some Lion's Den sites to make PerzPrez CBN, you could also add Media sites for a mini lockout, and add Goat with Two Horns to increase the potential number of set-aside heroes. PLus Goat can band to the Prez to increase the chance of the Prez surviving to repeat the process. Of course, the Prez usually gets initiative, so Haman's Plot is always fun!

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:04:38 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 01, 2011, 12:52:56 PM

Quote from: Korunks on August 01, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
wow I missed that play completly. My little brother will be thrilled, he likes his persians.

Persians are fun, even if they don't necessarily win the game.

Since you will be adding some Lion's Den sites to make PerzPrez CBN, you could also add Media sites for a mini lockout, and add Goat with Two Horns to increase the potential number of set-aside heroes. PLus Goat can band to the Prez to increase the chance of the Prez surviving to repeat the process. Of course, the Prez usually gets initiative, so Haman's Plot is always fun!

Persians just need some more cards and they'd be quite good.

I mean, just look at the list of all printed Persians. I can't help but laugh at it.

• (Good): Esther (BL), Esther (BU), Esther (L), Esther (P), and Esther (UL)
• (Evil): Haman (BL), Haman (BU), Haman (CL), Haman (CU), Haman (L), Haman (P), Haman (UL), Persian Presidents (RA), Prince of Persia (Pr), The Bear (RA), and Zeresh (Pi)

There are more versions of Haman than there are Persians total.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #38 on:** August 01, 2011, 01:56:30 PM »

That list is missing The Ram with Two Horns and the new version of Prince of Persia. I agree that is still slim pickings, but since Bear, Ram, and Prince are all brown/orange, you have two possible avenues:

1. Add other orange demons like KoT, Trembling Demon, and Deceiving Spirit
2. Add typical brown ECs like Uzzah, KingZed, and Gomer (in spite of that silly new Hosea

)

Bobbert · « **Reply #39 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:41:36 PM »

I think YMT just hit the big reason people will put this card in their decks - his very presence makes Gomer negateable. No more Gomer/KoT bands!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #40 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:54:28 PM »

Hosea was definitely useful in playtesting, if not for anything more than giving one of the game's most popular EC's a severe check. However, he's definitely not the best hero you'll see new this year. Not even the best Green one...

STAMP · « **Reply #41 on:** August 01, 2011, 03:28:18 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on July 31, 2011, 06:37:37 PM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on July 31, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
I would think this would be more helpful in Type 2, but I do not speak from experience.

Hmmm, a green prophet that helps in Type 2...is that an 8-lb test, fluorocarbon leader attached to that card??

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 01, 2011, 02:54:28 PM

...Not even the best Green one...

...and is that a shiny, trolling rig also attached?...

SomeKittens · « **Reply #42 on:** August 01, 2011, 04:18:55 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 01, 2011, 02:54:28 PM

Hosea was definitely useful in playtesting, if not for anything more than giving one of the game's most popular EC's a severe check. However, he's definitely not the best hero you'll see new this year. Not even the best Green one...

My guess is that the best Green one will be Ezekiel

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #43 on:** August 01, 2011, 04:46:28 PM »

Zeke is pretty good, but he's not the best green hero either.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #44 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:01:18 PM »

I really want to spoil this bad boy. At least you guys nerfed him a little.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #45 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:02:27 PM »

Yeah, Que is pretty good.

Bobbert · « **Reply #46 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:32:17 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 01, 2011, 05:02:27 PM

Yeah, Que is pretty good.

That's Pale Green. Close, but no cigar

Master KChief · « **Reply #47 on:** August 01, 2011, 06:55:49 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 01, 2011, 05:01:18 PM

I really want to spoil this bad boy. At least you guys nerfed him a little.

...a little?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #48 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:04:46 PM »

I'll bet it's Isaiah. I heard they were planning a reprint of him.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #49 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:51:37 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on August 01, 2011, 06:55:49 PM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 01, 2011, 05:01:18 PM
I really want to spoil this bad boy. At least you guys nerfed him a little.

...a little?

It depends on if they changed it to top or bottom.

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Author Topic: Article #4 posted - Hosea (Read 8195 times)

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