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If Provisions is played when Iron Pan is already out, then it's negated. If you set them aside first, it won't be negated (you might have to activate it in a different phase though). This is similar to the Feast of Trumpets/Pigs Lost Soul ruling.

Only the draw 2 part is negated.  The really important part of Provisions still works regardless!

In fact it works better, since Iron Pan negates KotW...

Let's keep in mind that this is just an artifact, so getting rid of it won't be that difficult.

Depends on how dedicated you are. Magic Charms (on a magician), Lampstand (in a temple), Iron Pan (on Ezekiel), Unholy Writ (in High Priest Palace), and another random artifact on the artifact pile.

This is all extremely easy to have in a T2 Pharisee defense (with Laban and/or Balaam for the magician). Captured Ark won't hurt too much, since you can shuffle the random artifact. DoN won't work. And you can have three copies of Iron Pan anyway.

T1 would be more difficult, but three artifacts active would be likely, so not a huge deal. Plus you'll redraw things again quickly because your deck is small.

And if you're really dedicated, you can throw in Priestly Breastplate (as if ignore wasn't dead enough) and Cross Beams of the Cross with Simon of Cyrene. Both of which also work in a green deck. Even more dedicated would be throwing in Temple of Dagon with Alter of Dagon. I'm sure there are others that I'm missing...there's also Chorazin, Pithom, etc.
Iron Pan is going to be out there a LONG time. Not to mention, I'm going to put Ezekiel in Goshen.

You do realize that Goshen won't protect anything.  And neither will Lampstand, right?

This is true. I was surprised in a playtest game when Gabe used DoN on my Iron Pan with his Lampstand active. I cried foul, until he pointed out that IP can't possibly be protected.

three words...out of play.

Kerith ravine says set asides work but eveything else abides by game rules.  out of play is basically inactive. 

I think he was thinking type 2.  In type 2 where 3 copies of Iron pan can exist, once  you DoN one, you will basically have to deal with captured ark ro negating any art negaters played in battle.  that is easy to deal with when you can activate so many artifacts.

The one thing I really don't like about this card is that it negates Lampstand. Other than that, I love it. I think it has enough restrictions to keep it from being OP, yet it will certainly lower the number of Disciples decks and whatnot.

Just one question: Are there any Babylonian heroes other than Moses?

I don't think so, but I think Daniel and his buds should be.

If so, I anticipate a few Daniel/Prophets offenses in the coming year.

No heroes are babylonian.

Yes, that, and Moses not being an Egyptian are two (IMO) fairly silly rulings, but we've had them debated about 1000 times....

Paul had Roman citizenship.
Daniel and such were slaves taken from ther homelands.
Moses was also a slave before his adoption.

Quote from: Smokey on July 01, 2011, 06:12:27 PM

Paul had Roman citizenship.
Daniel and such were slaves taken from ther homelands.
Moses was also a slave before his adoption.

So we are setting parameters for citizenship? Joseph was made second in command of all of Egypt, yet he is not Egyptian. How exactly do we define "citizen?" Is it based on birth? If so, then we have citizenship issues here in America. 

He was second in command, but he was still considered a foreigner.
I think it should be based on wheather or not the native people would consider them of their (country / identifier / whatever you want to call it).

Then perhaps the Romans think Saul was a Roman, but Paul was not.... 

He still had Roman citizenship, the governement at the time would have considered him a Roman even if he was an enemy of the state.