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I was not by any means attempting to say to rob was lying. That said I can see how my post could be interpreted that way and apologize.  I'm personally trying to prepare for the worst case scenario and hope for the best.

I was not by any means attempting to say to rob was lying. That said I can see how my post could be interpreted that way and apologize.  I'm personally trying to prepare for the worst case scenario and hope for the best.

I didn't mean to intend that you were accusing Rob of lying, I was just clarifying why I haven't yet resigned myself to the possibility that we won't get the new set until Nats '13, even if the lack of progress reports is unsettling. Assuming the new set goes to print in time for it to be released around April, I see no reason that the cards shouldn't be released online, so that the people who seriously care about competing can start fiddling with the new decks and establishing the meta. We underwent a major meta change back in March, and recovered in time for a complete meta shift to take place the day of T12P at Nats. I see no reason we can't do the same thing, provided the powers at be decide to release the cards. If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

Rob said (if I remember correctly...I can't find the post on Cactus or Facebook anywhere, and I know they were both here) that finances were holding the release back, and he needed X amount of money, which he projected to be in April.

I seem to recall $40,000 as that X amount.

If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

This will likely be true regardless thanks to the present economy. If you want to guarantee the April release of the new starters, then I suggest you host lots of tournaments to help reach that $40K goal.

Quote from: Westy on December 12, 2012, 12:57:59 AM

Rob said (if I remember correctly...I can't find the post on Cactus or Facebook anywhere, and I know they were both here) that finances were holding the release back, and he needed X amount of money, which he projected to be in April.

I seem to recall $40,000 as that X amount.

Quote from: Chris on December 12, 2012, 03:47:36 AM

If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

This will likely be true regardless thanks to the present economy. If you want to guarantee the April release of the new starters, then I suggest you host lots of tournaments to help reach that $40K goal.

Well to speed up the process we could do a fundraiser on the boards like.... if you have a triplet of a card donate it to the fund and have it sold to support cactus gaming design. One person would collect the cards and make sure the money goes where it needs to go.

KingLeo

Would Rob look at doing Pre-orders with possibly doing a tourney promo for those who pre-pay? That would be a way to get funds sooner...

Besides prayer, the best way to help Rob is to help clear out his old inventory by making purchases at cactusgamedesign.com. 

Rob could print a tournament legal goat card and offer it for a $250 pledge on Kickstarter. $40K overnight.

I know Rob considered the idea of using kickstarter to raise funds for the new starters and/or a larger release. But I haven't heard anything more than you guys. I'm still hopeful for a spring release.

Because of the extra time we've had, the starters are some of the most well developed cards I've seen since I started play testing. I've used them to teach over 16 new players this past fall. They are easily the best teaching tool I've seen. They're simple, yet powerful and fun to play. They include cards for all types of players, from newbies, to casual to advanced players. I'm really excited for them to become available to the Redemption community.

I echo this statement. Definitely the most fun starter deck games I've ever had.

so wait, the new cards are out on RTS? any way we can get a list of the new cards outside of RTS?

They arent out.... only the playtesters use the new cards on rts

If we can't get new cards, we need some rules changes to shake things up. I recommending banning all sets but Angel Wars: Dark Side of the Moon.

i wouldn't know i wasn't at nats last year and i may not ever go to a nationals cause that's tradition, raven never goes to nationals cause he has reasons for not going 

that wasd then and now, i went to nats in august!! 

Nice mock up. But I can promise you that card is not in the starter, nor has any version of it been.

Nice mock up. But I can promise you that card is not in the starter, nor has any version of it been.

thats why i put the "Jk"

I was decieved :X

You also used the wrong border type for Demons :p

ooo- look who knows so much about card design? Cactus didn't use those demon backgrounds last time I checked