Author Topic: any word on the I/J starter decks? (Read 39576 times)

jbeers285 · « **Reply #100 on:** December 12, 2012, 01:07:08 AM »

I was not by any means attempting to say to rob was lying. That said I can see how my post could be interpreted that way and apologize. I'm personally trying to prepare for the worst case scenario and hope for the best.

Ironica · « **Reply #101 on:** December 12, 2012, 02:08:59 AM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, there was another year when there was no set. I think it was around a starter box too.

Chris · « **Reply #102 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:47:36 AM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on December 12, 2012, 01:07:08 AM

I was not by any means attempting to say to rob was lying. That said I can see how my post could be interpreted that way and apologize. I'm personally trying to prepare for the worst case scenario and hope for the best.

I didn't mean to intend that you were accusing Rob of lying, I was just clarifying why I haven't yet resigned myself to the possibility that we won't get the new set until Nats '13, even if the lack of progress reports is unsettling. Assuming the new set goes to print in time for it to be released around April, I see no reason that the cards shouldn't be released online, so that the people who seriously care about competing can start fiddling with the new decks and establishing the meta. We underwent a major meta change back in March, and recovered in time for a complete meta shift to take place the day of T12P at Nats. I see no reason we can't do the same thing, provided the powers at be decide to release the cards. If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

Master KChief · « **Reply #103 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:07:25 AM »

Quote from: Ironica on December 12, 2012, 02:08:59 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, there was another year when there was no set. I think it was around a starter box too.

It was between Womens and Warriors. 2 year hiatus. Warriors ended up being the gamble that kept the game alive.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #104 on:** December 12, 2012, 08:03:05 AM »

Quote from: Westy on December 12, 2012, 12:57:59 AM

Rob said (if I remember correctly...I can't find the post on Cactus or Facebook anywhere, and I know they were both here) that finances were holding the release back, and he needed X amount of money, which he projected to be in April.

I seem to recall $40,000 as that X amount.

Quote from: Chris on December 12, 2012, 03:47:36 AM

If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

This will likely be true regardless thanks to the present economy. If you want to guarantee the April release of the new starters, then I suggest you host lots of tournaments to help reach that $40K goal.

CJSports · « **Reply #105 on:** December 12, 2012, 08:51:47 AM »

Quote from: Chris on December 12, 2012, 12:35:01 AM

Quote from: jbeers285 on December 11, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
I am with Cj on this I think we need to realize that no set will be out until nats x

It's like a season without a new set. . . I just hope this doesn't set a precedent of one set every two seasons.

We've been told multiple times that there would be a new set this Spring, and Rob hasn't made a habit of outright lying. That said, like I noted in my previous post, I think we're entitled to an update on the progress of it.

I only sya this because, the original release date was Nats 2012. Then it got pushed back to New Year's. Now it's April. I'm just saying that it is a very strong possibility they might have to push it back again wnad what would make the most sense? Nats 2013.

KingLeo · « **Reply #106 on:** December 12, 2012, 10:02:55 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on December 12, 2012, 08:03:05 AM

Quote from: Westy on December 12, 2012, 12:57:59 AM
Rob said (if I remember correctly...I can't find the post on Cactus or Facebook anywhere, and I know they were both here) that finances were holding the release back, and he needed X amount of money, which he projected to be in April.

I seem to recall $40,000 as that X amount.

Quote from: Chris on December 12, 2012, 03:47:36 AM
If we go the entire season without a new set, I imagine this will be the slowest tournament season in a decade.

This will likely be true regardless thanks to the present economy. If you want to guarantee the April release of the new starters, then I suggest you host lots of tournaments to help reach that $40K goal.

Well to speed up the process we could do a fundraiser on the boards like.... if you have a triplet of a card donate it to the fund and have it sold to support cactus gaming design. One person would collect the cards and make sure the money goes where it needs to go.

KingLeo

Gabe · « **Reply #107 on:** December 12, 2012, 11:19:12 AM »

I know Rob considered the idea of using kickstarter to raise funds for the new starters and/or a larger release. But I haven't heard anything more than you guys. I'm still hopeful for a spring release.

Because of the extra time we've had, the starters are some of the most well developed cards I've seen since I started play testing. I've used them to teach over 16 new players this past fall. They are easily the best teaching tool I've seen. They're simple, yet powerful and fun to play. They include cards for all types of players, from newbies, to casual to advanced players. I'm really excited for them to become available to the Redemption community.

theselfevident · « **Reply #108 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:12:22 PM »

Would Rob look at doing Pre-orders with possibly doing a tourney promo for those who pre-pay? That would be a way to get funds sooner...

soul seeker · « **Reply #109 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:24:14 PM »

Quote from: theselfevident on December 12, 2012, 12:12:22 PM

Would Rob look at doing Pre-orders with possibly doing a tourney promo for those who pre-pay? That would be a way to get funds sooner...

I'm pretty sure that is what "Kickstarter" does, and so the answer to your question at this moment appears to be "no."

STAMP · « **Reply #110 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:26:51 PM »

Besides prayer, the best way to help Rob is to help clear out his old inventory by making purchases at cactusgamedesign.com.

Chris · « **Reply #111 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:28:50 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on December 12, 2012, 11:19:12 AM

I know Rob considered the idea of using kickstarter to raise funds for the new starters and/or a larger release. But I haven't heard anything more than you guys. I'm still hopeful for a spring release.

Because of the extra time we've had, the starters are some of the most well developed cards I've seen since I started play testing. I've used them to teach over 16 new players this past fall. They are easily the best teaching tool I've seen. They're simple, yet powerful and fun to play. They include cards for all types of players, from newbies, to casual to advanced players. I'm really excited for them to become available to the Redemption community.

I hadn't considered Kickstarter, but that would be a good idea. Do you suppose there's any chance of having the cards on RTS once they're set to print?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #112 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:51:22 PM »

Rob could print a tournament legal goat card and offer it for a $250 pledge on Kickstarter. $40K overnight.

Gabe · « **Reply #113 on:** December 12, 2012, 01:08:30 PM »

Quote from: Chris on December 12, 2012, 12:28:50 PM

I hadn't considered Kickstarter, but that would be a good idea. Do you suppose there's any chance of having the cards on RTS once they're set to print?

I have them on RTS already.

Releasing them to the public that way is entirely up to Rob. In the past he's denied those type of requests though. Still it never hurts to ask. When we reach that point I don't mind making the request.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #114 on:** December 12, 2012, 04:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on December 12, 2012, 11:19:12 AM

I know Rob considered the idea of using kickstarter to raise funds for the new starters and/or a larger release. But I haven't heard anything more than you guys. I'm still hopeful for a spring release.

Because of the extra time we've had, the starters are some of the most well developed cards I've seen since I started play testing. I've used them to teach over 16 new players this past fall. They are easily the best teaching tool I've seen. They're simple, yet powerful and fun to play. They include cards for all types of players, from newbies, to casual to advanced players. I'm really excited for them to become available to the Redemption community.

I echo this statement. Definitely the most fun starter deck games I've ever had.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #115 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:29:33 PM »

so wait, the new cards are out on RTS? any way we can get a list of the new cards outside of RTS?

Isildur · « **Reply #116 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:36:34 PM »

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on December 12, 2012, 05:29:33 PM

so wait, the new cards are out on RTS? any way we can get a list of the new cards outside of RTS?

They arent out.... only the playtesters use the new cards on rts

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #117 on:** December 12, 2012, 05:50:42 PM »

aw poo...any word on when we will get some articles on new cards???

JDS · « **Reply #118 on:** December 12, 2012, 06:08:49 PM »

If we can't get new cards, we need some rules changes to shake things up. I recommending banning all sets but Angel Wars: Dark Side of the Moon.

Master KChief · « **Reply #119 on:** December 12, 2012, 06:28:14 PM »

And Chris Bany's X-treme Pedestrian Safety. That expansion was legit.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #120 on:** December 13, 2012, 09:58:35 PM »

Quote from: New Raven BR on February 01, 2010, 05:19:31 PM

i wouldn't know i wasn't at nats last year and i may not ever go to a nationals cause that's tradition, raven never goes to nationals cause he has reasons for not going

that wasd then and now, i went to nats in august!!

drb1200 · « **Reply #121 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:21:30 PM »

Not sure if this is the most recent version, but here's a playtest card from earlier this yearjk

(LOL at you guys -1'ing this

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Gabe · « **Reply #122 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:58:19 PM »

Nice mock up. But I can promise you that card is not in the starter, nor has any version of it been.

Isildur · « **Reply #123 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:55:41 PM »

You also used the wrong border type for Demons :p

drb1200 · « **Reply #124 on:** December 15, 2012, 03:24:05 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on December 15, 2012, 12:58:19 PM

Nice mock up. But I can promise you that card is not in the starter, nor has any version of it been.

thats why i put the "Jk"

I was decieved :X

Quote from: Isildur on December 15, 2012, 02:55:41 PM

You also used the wrong border type for Demons :p

ooo- look who knows so much about card design? Cactus didn't use those demon backgrounds last time I checked

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Author Topic: any word on the I/J starter decks? (Read 39576 times)

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