Author Topic: Ahimelek Brainstorm (Read 7500 times)

Red Warrior · « **on:** October 03, 2011, 10:37:27 PM »

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Red • Ability: 4 / 5 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Return an Evil Character to owner's hand. Protect your warrior class Heroes from capture. Cannot be negated if David is in play. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Canaan, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Samuel 26:6 •

Brainstorm Session
What are some of the crazy things you can do with Ahimelek?

Red Warrior · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:40:39 PM »

-Set him aside on Ambush

-Return an exchanged Seven Wicked Spirits to hand

-Trigger Stronghold in the Desert by placing their only EC (of that brigade) into their hand

-Band him in with Battle Cry... or United Army... or Sound the Alarm

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:05:02 PM »

-Wheel within a wheel him on in
-Writ your own King Amaziah and add him to battle

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:13:01 PM »

Angel under the Oak => Samuel + Ishmaiah + Ahimilek...okay...so that's not really an effective Ahimilek combo...

Seraiah + Silver Trumpets + Ahimilek

Ambush + Ahimilek

TGT + TGT Hero + Gathering + Ahimilek

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2011, 01:09:46 AM »

Return a demon to your hand so you can put it beneath your deck with The Bronze Laver gaining you an extra card each turn for you to gates of hell or Wandering Spirit it out by the next turn.

Not really very crazy but useful, but return characters to move around weapons (I think that weapons follow the warrior).

Your opponent attacks you with a Garden Tomb character with Garden Tomb active when you have at exactly 2 characters of the same brigade out, block with one of them and cause a side battle (this works well with King Rehoboam) and return the other character, so that when you go back to the original battle your character is being ignored and thus giving you infinite initiative to wreak untold destruction on your opponent before protecting lost souls from rescue/playing a dominant to stop them. Note: this can also work by using a choose the rescuer card to give them your garden tomb hero and whatnot.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:33:35 AM »

He's also helpful for returning an EC with Charms/Horsies on it to opponent's hand, so that neither can be used right away.

He also combos nice with Canaan (which actually combos nice with the Far Country LS) to make the cost for capturing a Hero much lower.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:55:05 AM »

The most fun chain is Gibeonite Treaty to capture your Canaanite, then use Canaan to give it to your opponent, then try to rescue it but if not, you can use Ahimelek to get it back.

Red Warrior · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2011, 02:48:02 PM »

Wraith beat me to it, I just now thought of Seraiah and Silver Trumpets and got on to post it. Rock on!

Send the "another" Assyrian back to their hand to prevent the activation of Assyrian Seige Army.

Send the "another" Babylonian back to their hand to prevent the CBN of Nebuzaradan.

Reset your Gates-of-Samaria-bulked King back to hand for better initiative.

lightningninja · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2011, 03:33:22 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 04, 2011, 11:55:05 AM

The most fun chain is Gibeonite Treaty to capture your Canaanite, then use Canaan to give it to your opponent, then try to rescue it but if not, you can use Ahimelek to get it back.

He can return evil characters treated as a ls?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2011, 03:44:06 PM »

I suppose not. I guess it's just one or the other, but a branched combo is much better than a rigid combo.

Red Wing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:39:11 AM »

Play Gathering of Angels on CoTH. Attack with him band in Samuel search for David to D2 and make Ahimelek CBN then band in Ahimelek.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:18:33 PM »

If you band a bunch of characters and Amaleck into battle. Then with Amaleck you return the character they blocked with, in lots of cases it's just like saving there character from getting defeted by the numbers. Really? Are they gonna be able to get rid of all the characters you band in battle. The however if they have a negate to negate your banding card with they can't play it because they are returned. that's the one plus I see.

Just some food for thought.

lightningninja · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:24:33 PM »

The point is, their character survived but you win the battle, cbn. Which is majorly good. You're 1/3 to winning.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:26:33 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on October 05, 2011, 01:24:33 PM

The point is, their character survived but you win the battle, cbn. Which is majorly good. You're 1/3 to winning.

Awww forgot about the CBN if David is in play.

However, I've seen a red deck that doesn't use David because he doesn't want to discard his Uriah.

Red Wing · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:28:28 PM »

Quote from: Neil Da BOMB J on October 05, 2011, 01:26:33 PM

Quote from: lightningninja on October 05, 2011, 01:24:33 PM
The point is, their character survived but you win the battle, cbn. Which is majorly good. You're 1/3 to winning.
Awww forgot about the CBN if David is in play.

However, I've seen a red deck that doesn't use David because he doesn't want to discard his Uriah.

CBN Bravery of David is worth more than Uriah IMHO.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:33:51 PM »

Here's what you have to weigh
T&S a discard
David's Triumph a discard
Bravery of David a discard

Is it better to have the benefits of David and a chance at only one use of Uriah
Or is it better to try to keep Uriah to play 2-3 of these

I do use a David in my red Deck. I also have an Abby to band to him though.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:48:10 PM »

Red decks aren't good. Ahimilek decks are good. Ahimilek decks without David aren't good.

lightningninja · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:48:48 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on October 05, 2011, 01:48:10 PM

Red decks aren't good. Ahimilek decks are good. Ahimilek decks without David aren't good.

Red and Purple decks are good.

Red Wing · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:53:14 PM »

Quote from: Neil Da BOMB J on October 05, 2011, 01:33:51 PM

Here's what you have to weigh
T&S a discard
David's Triumph a discard
Bravery of David a discard

Is it better to have the benefits of David and a chance at only one use of Uriah
Or is it better to try to keep Uriah to play 2-3 of these

I do use a David in my red Deck. I also have an Abby to band to him though.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with using both. Uriah takes out an EC with him and he is easy to get back with David's Harp or Chariots of Fire.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2011, 02:12:53 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on October 05, 2011, 01:48:48 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on October 05, 2011, 01:48:10 PM
Red decks aren't good. Ahimilek decks are good. Ahimilek decks without David aren't good.
Red and Purple decks are good.

Red and Purple decks are bad. Samuel/Ahimilek decks are good.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2011, 02:57:50 PM »

@Wraith
What do you not like about red red/purple decks

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:38:26 PM »

I mean a solid red deck isn't that good. Example:

Ahimilek
Ishmaiah
Ashael
Heldai
Uriah
Centurian at Capernaum (or Calvary, not sure which does which)
Ira/David (whichever you want to use)

Bravery of David
Battle Cry
David's Triumph
Counsel of Abigail
Trumpet and Sword
Centurian's Proclamation
A Soldier's Prayer
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No way is that going to beat a solid Ahimilek deck.

I'm not sure why you'd bother with Red/Purple when Ahimilek/Samuel abuse exists, since those make the deck 100x faster and better. More than likely, his "Red/Purple" is actually an Ahimilek/Samuel. Which really doesn't rely on Red or Purple. It relies on Samuel speed and Ahimilek CBN wins.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:59:47 PM »

But why is Samuel/Amaleck so good. Abigail can draw a lot of cards to. Not to mention the purple you can through in with King Amazing/Valley of salt Reach AocP and Counsel.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2011, 04:03:32 PM »

The better (imo) Samuel decks are Red/Purple base.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #24 on:** October 05, 2011, 04:04:19 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 05, 2011, 04:03:32 PM

The better (imo) Samuel decks are Red/Purple base.

why I'm really confused right now.

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