Author Topic: Revelation of John - Set List and Information (Read 96838 times)

Gabe · « **Reply #700 on:** April 14, 2017, 10:22:51 PM »

Quote from: Watchman492 on April 14, 2017, 09:08:36 PM

Will the cards from the last Rock of Ages tin (#26), such as Scattered, Foreign Wives, etc. be among the Rock of Ages cards in the RoJ packs?

I hope so but I haven't seen them in EC card boxes since the release at Nationals so maybe not.

Watchman · « **Reply #701 on:** April 14, 2017, 10:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 14, 2017, 10:22:51 PM

Quote from: Watchman492 on April 14, 2017, 09:08:36 PM
Will the cards from the last Rock of Ages tin (#26), such as Scattered, Foreign Wives, etc. be among the Rock of Ages cards in the RoJ packs?

I hope so but I haven't seen them in EC card boxes since the release at Nationals so maybe not.

Yeah they weren't in EC but I believe EC came out a short time after that tin so that might have been a factor.

RedemptionAggie · « **Reply #702 on:** April 14, 2017, 10:49:36 PM »

Yeah, IJ/Tin 26 and EC were back to back sets, so they could have been held back because they were the next newest set to sell, and there was no set in 2012 (at least according to the TLG pricelist) - so the sales of the 2011 Tins could have been largely exhausted.. Or maybe there wasn't enough to include them, like the Pats/Kings packs decisions for the original tins, or there was an overstock of the older tins, etc.

Definitely not impossible, and I'd like to see them included.

Master Q · « **Reply #703 on:** April 15, 2017, 11:34:44 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 01:38:39 PM

I'm curious how many angel fans plan to use The Four Living Creatures and Wheel within a Wheel to pull all their O.T. angels out of deck quickly? Too bad WwaW doesn't get N.T. angels.

Ha, I think that nifty trick will almost exclusively be used to ensure you'll always have AutO or Captain in a Judges offense. FLC is even part gold, protects your hand from Mayhem and can easily draw an extra card if you splash a HT Artifact or two into your deck (Golden Censer/Sea o' Glass I could see w/ Judges). Whose idea was this??

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #704 on:** April 15, 2017, 02:24:50 PM »

Quote from: Master Q on April 15, 2017, 11:34:44 AM

Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 01:38:39 PM
I'm curious how many angel fans plan to use The Four Living Creatures and Wheel within a Wheel to pull all their O.T. angels out of deck quickly? Too bad WwaW doesn't get N.T. angels.

Ha, I think that nifty trick will almost exclusively be used to ensure you'll always have AutO or Captain in a Judges offense. FLC is even part gold, protects your hand from Mayhem and can easily draw an extra card if you splash a HT Artifact or two into your deck (Golden Censer/Sea o' Glass I could see w/ Judges). Whose idea was this??

Emperor Vitellius' lol

The Guardian · « **Reply #705 on:** April 17, 2017, 01:19:39 PM »

Proofs have been sent to Rob!

Keep an eye on Land of Redemption this week for a couple articles outlining some of the updates we've made since cards were previewed in the past couple of weeks.

Xonathan · « **Reply #706 on:** April 17, 2017, 01:44:09 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on April 17, 2017, 01:19:39 PM

Proofs have been sent to Rob!

Keep an eye on Land of Redemption this week for a couple articles outlining some of the updates we've made since cards were previewed in the past couple of weeks.

Hooray!! Great job guys.

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #707 on:** April 18, 2017, 10:36:54 AM »

Any word on when a Lackey update might be out? I'm ready to start working on my deck. lol

Xonathan · « **Reply #708 on:** April 18, 2017, 12:44:07 PM »

Quote from: wyatt_marcum on April 18, 2017, 10:36:54 AM

Any word on when a Lackey update might be out? I'm ready to start working on my deck. lol

Last year the update came when the set was released so I'll bet they'll do the same thing this year.

The Schaefer · « **Reply #709 on:** April 18, 2017, 04:42:02 PM »

If there is going to be a special release at Nats of this set like Cloud, can Guardian of your Souls get a Full Art Version please? I'm sure a certain Elder would like to see his board namesake see some full art treatment.

The Guardian · « **Reply #710 on:** April 18, 2017, 05:15:14 PM »

You mean something like this?

Spoiler (hover to show)

Before you get too excited, this was just a potential mock-up that Gabe did for me. (Obviously before we knew we were reprinting GoyS).

The Schaefer · « **Reply #711 on:** April 18, 2017, 05:31:06 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on April 18, 2017, 05:15:14 PM

You mean something like this?

Spoiler (hover to show)

Before you get too excited, this was just a potential mock-up that Gabe did for me. (Obviously before we knew we were reprinting GoyS).

Looks nice! Yeah you can tell it's a little older. No reason to make a full art for the old Guardian of your souls with the new one being better. Still would be awesome. (Plus I think it would look better than a Red Dragon Full Art but that's my opinion)

Gabe · « **Reply #712 on:** April 18, 2017, 06:07:46 PM »

If we get to do an alternate border set for Nationals again we only do the URs as full art (without borders) but I'm sure we will come up with something really cool for GoYS. For example, check out the Nats version of Sword of the Spirit. We used the card art as the border making it appear full art.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #713 on:** April 18, 2017, 08:30:26 PM »

Red Dragon Full-Art Hype!

GreatGray · « **Reply #714 on:** April 23, 2017, 02:48:49 PM »

Should The Sea of Glass involve music? Because the verse Revelation 15:2 says "And I saw something like a sea of glass mixed with fire, and those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, holding harps of God. Would this be able to fall under the category of "Represents an event that was noted for its music." or "Represents a musical instrument or singing." as defined by the REG?

galadgawyn · « **Reply #715 on:** April 24, 2017, 08:37:00 AM »

Is it too late for changes? I don't know if this has been covered but the wording on "The Great White Throne" seems problematic.

"You may banish an evil card in discard pile to search deck for a Hero. At any time, you may discard an evil card in territory to force opponent to withdraw all but one Evil Character in battle."

So the way I read that you could discard all evil characters, fortresses and curses at any time. That would be obviously broken and I don't believe that would be the intention but with that wording why couldn't you? It doesn't say once a turn, or that you have to withdraw an evil character for it to work, or that it even has to be the battle phase.

On other cards like the ones that discard all the cards in a hand, they work even if the opponent doesn't have any cards in hand, so to be consistent:

"I discard your curse to force you to withdraw all but Red Dragon. But I only have Red Dragon in battle?!?

That's ok, even though all is zero you are still withdrawing all but one evil character, now I discard your coliseum to do it again, then all your characters in territory and once the battle ends, the Red Dragon who is in territory now. Great, I guess I shouldn't play much defense anymore."

I would love to know if there is some combination of rules that prevent this but even if there is, I think this could use some rewriting to clarify.

The Guardian · « **Reply #716 on:** April 24, 2017, 11:41:55 AM »

Quote from: Four_Corners5 on April 24, 2017, 09:02:20 AM

I think when it says in territory it means your territory. If it said a territory it would be broken because a territory means you could select any territory.

Correct--"in territory" defaults to "in your territory."

Gabe · « **Reply #717 on:** April 25, 2017, 01:27:42 PM »

If you haven't already seen today's article head over to Land of Redemption and check out Josh's story for how The Ends of the Earth came to be in Revelation of John!

kariusvega · « **Reply #718 on:** April 25, 2017, 02:04:37 PM »

Can we expect an update to the Redemption wiki?

http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Redemption_Wiki

The Guardian · « **Reply #719 on:** April 25, 2017, 02:10:33 PM »

The Wiki is unofficial and not updated by the playtest/elder team.

kariusvega · « **Reply #720 on:** April 25, 2017, 02:39:21 PM »

I guess it was more a question for Browarod? I think he was who was updating it before?

Adevine · « **Reply #721 on:** April 25, 2017, 09:11:32 PM »

I think I am going to go ahead and pre-order a box...oh the choices

browarod · « **Reply #722 on:** April 25, 2017, 10:39:57 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 25, 2017, 02:39:21 PM

I guess it was more a question for Browarod? I think he was who was updating it before?

Lambo was actually doing that before, and he's the only one (I know of) that knows how to mass update/create entries (like for importing a new set). I was certainly doing my best to help update articles after the initial mass posting but alas I don't know enough about wikia coding/back end management to get it updated with everything it's missing.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #723 on:** April 26, 2017, 09:21:57 AM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 25, 2017, 02:04:37 PM

Can we expect an update to the Redemption wiki?

http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Redemption_Wiki

The wonderful thing about wikis is that anyone can update them.

Unnamed · « **Reply #724 on:** April 26, 2017, 04:51:21 PM »

Quote from: galadgawyn on April 24, 2017, 08:37:00 AM

Is it too late for changes? I don't know if this has been covered but the wording on "The Great White Throne" seems problematic.

"You may banish an evil card in discard pile to search deck for a Hero. At any time, you may discard an evil card in territory to force opponent to withdraw all but one Evil Character in battle."

So the way I read that you could discard all evil characters, fortresses and curses at any time. That would be obviously broken and I don't believe that would be the intention but with that wording why couldn't you? It doesn't say once a turn, or that you have to withdraw an evil character for it to work, or that it even has to be the battle phase.

On other cards like the ones that discard all the cards in a hand, they work even if the opponent doesn't have any cards in hand, so to be consistent:

"I discard your curse to force you to withdraw all but Red Dragon. But I only have Red Dragon in battle?!?

That's ok, even though all is zero you are still withdrawing all but one evil character, now I discard your coliseum to do it again, then all your characters in territory and once the battle ends, the Red Dragon who is in territory now. Great, I guess I shouldn't play much defense anymore."

I would love to know if there is some combination of rules that prevent this but even if there is, I think this could use some rewriting to clarify.

Isn't the great white throne still broken regardless the territory thing?

The "at any time" could make for one very broken combo...depending on what the current rules for stalling are...

Either way, FooF Protection of Jerusalem might be fun to play around with too.

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