Author Topic: Revelation of John - Set List and Information (Read 98016 times)

thejambi · « **Reply #650 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:17:00 PM »

Quote from: Watchman492 on April 12, 2017, 09:54:51 PM

Quote from: Gabe on April 12, 2017, 08:21:53 PM
I'm sure we will get an awesome Leviathan reprint some day. At the present the old Ap UR is still a very playable card in both animal and mixed crimson defenses.

When we were adding cards for the mini-theme Job defense we had room for one huge animal. We felt adding a new animal, particularly one that players have asked for, was a better choice than reprinting one that was already seeing play.

Fair enough. And I definitely like the Behemoth, so I agree, I would chose it over a new Leviathan.

I think the next set should just be 100% Leviathan. Mostly because I can't pick just one favorite verse from Job 41 to use as the reference. There's a lot to go on.

"Ignore characters previously met in battle."
Job 41:8
   Lay your hands on him;
      remember the battle—you will not do it again!

"After battle, capture an opposing character."
Job 41:10
   No one is so fierce that he dares to stir him up.
      Who then is he who can stand before me?

"Negate and discard an opponent's weapon."
Job 41:26
   Though the sword reaches him, it does not avail,
      nor the spear, the dart, or the javelin.

"If more than 1 weapon in discard pile, put all weapons in discard pile in hand."
Job 41:15
   His back is made of rows of shields,
      shut up closely as with a seal.

"If holder sneezes during battle, interrupt the battle and discard all other cards in battle."
Job 41:18
   His sneezings flash forth light,
      and his eyes are like the eyelids of the dawn.

... just for starters!

Gabe · « **Reply #651 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:20:15 PM »

Wow, Jambi, that's amazing! At the very least I imagine we will have to print a Leviathan in every evil brigade!

thejambi · « **Reply #652 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:24:56 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 12, 2017, 10:20:15 PM

Wow, Jambi, that's amazing! At the very least I imagine we will have to print a Leviathan in every evil brigade!

Just call me up when you need some help with that

I forgot the one that searches for any card "depicting Buzz Lightyear".. I'm sure that's in Job somewhere... what translation are the references on Redemption cards using, again? (Actually, if you could answer that, that'd be great. I don't know!)

Gabe · « **Reply #653 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:43:08 PM »

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #654 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:55:21 PM »

Quote from: thejambi on April 12, 2017, 10:24:56 PM

Quote from: Gabe on April 12, 2017, 10:20:15 PM
Wow, Jambi, that's amazing! At the very least I imagine we will have to print a Leviathan in every evil brigade!

Just call me up when you need some help with that

I forgot the one that searches for any card "depicting Buzz Lightyear".. I'm sure that's in Job somewhere... what translation are the references on Redemption cards using, again? (Actually, if you could answer that, that'd be great. I don't know!)

Now I really want an extremely small % of Michaels to have the depicting Buzz Lightyear identifier.

thejambi · « **Reply #655 on:** April 12, 2017, 10:58:43 PM »

Quote from: Kevinthedude on April 12, 2017, 10:55:21 PM

Quote from: thejambi on April 12, 2017, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: Gabe on April 12, 2017, 10:20:15 PM
Wow, Jambi, that's amazing! At the very least I imagine we will have to print a Leviathan in every evil brigade!

Just call me up when you need some help with that

I forgot the one that searches for any card "depicting Buzz Lightyear".. I'm sure that's in Job somewhere... what translation are the references on Redemption cards using, again? (Actually, if you could answer that, that'd be great. I don't know!)

Now I really want an extremely small % of Michaels to have the depicting Buzz Lightyear identifier.

Now thaaat's what I call Ultra Rare!

megamanlan · « **Reply #656 on:** April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM »

LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Daniel · « **Reply #657 on:** April 12, 2017, 11:55:30 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM

LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Bro C'MON.

Gabe · « **Reply #658 on:** April 13, 2017, 12:03:03 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM

LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Chamber of Angels is not a card we're attempting to support with this year's set. The rumors that this was going to be Angel Wars 2 were only a joke.

Master Q · « **Reply #659 on:** April 13, 2017, 12:18:01 AM »

Woot! Everything is awesome! (clever tie-in to Scott's Lego Movie-themed title on LoR) Can't wait to see what awaits for Friday's article and to start playing again!

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Did you not see this?:

Spoiler (hover to show)

If Ends was printed as it began, it could've gotten it for you sooner too. But alas, 'tis a card of the mortal realm after all...

megamanlan · « **Reply #660 on:** April 13, 2017, 01:37:37 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 12:03:03 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Chamber of Angels is not a card we're attempting to support with this year's set. The rumors that this was going to be Angel Wars 2 were only a joke.

I know that was a joke, but I would have preferred to see something to support it (even if it was a meh card. That and I doubt that there will ever be an AW2 but it hasn't stopped you guys from making supports for CoA before (Angel of Warning) but now it's too easy for an Opponent to break it and most Angel players are hurt by losing it. I don't see why we need to make an AW2 set just to have a card that says "Search Discard Pile for Chamber of Angels" or "Protect Set-Aside from Opponent's [or Evil cards]"

megamanlan · « **Reply #661 on:** April 13, 2017, 01:43:27 AM »

Quote from: Master Q on April 13, 2017, 12:18:01 AM

Woot! Everything is awesome! (clever tie-in to Scott's Lego Movie-themed title on LoR) Can't wait to see what awaits for Friday's article and to start playing again!

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Did you not see this?:

Spoiler (hover to show)

Just put Chamber in Reserve and be done with it.

If Ends was printed as it began, it could've gotten it for you sooner too. But alas, 'tis a card of the mortal realm after all...

I'd rather run Angel of Warning so I wouldn't have to waste that card on getting Chamber. (Plus Chamber's better off in the main as Angels still need it.)

The Schaefer · « **Reply #662 on:** April 13, 2017, 06:41:43 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 12, 2017, 10:20:15 PM

Wow, Jambi, that's amazing! At the very least I imagine we will have to print a Leviathan in every evil brigade!

Leviathan is the new Panic Demon. Just bigger and badder.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #663 on:** April 13, 2017, 08:17:05 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 13, 2017, 01:37:37 AM

Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Chamber of Angels is not a card we're attempting to support with this year's set. The rumors that this was going to be Angel Wars 2 were only a joke.

I know that was a joke, but I would have preferred to see something to support it (even if it was a meh card. That and I doubt that there will ever be an AW2 but it hasn't stopped you guys from making supports for CoA before (Angel of Warning) but now it's too easy for an Opponent to break it and most Angel players are hurt by losing it. I don't see why we need to make an AW2 set just to have a card that says "Search Discard Pile for Chamber of Angels" or "Protect Set-Aside from Opponent's [or Evil cards]"

Run the old protection of jerusalem. you will be running angels anyways, so it will be no issue finding two to set aside for a while.

Josh · « **Reply #664 on:** April 13, 2017, 08:38:07 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM

LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

There are already multiple cards that search for Chamber, as mentioned above. Also, there's this one which is potentially your best option.

Your "requests" for tweaks or additions to already-playtested-abilities would probably be better received if they weren't so focused on the one offense you enjoy playing, and instead were presented as ideas to make the game better for all Redemption players.

Red · « **Reply #665 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:44:45 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 13, 2017, 01:37:37 AM

Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Chamber of Angels is not a card we're attempting to support with this year's set. The rumors that this was going to be Angel Wars 2 were only a joke.

I know that was a joke, but I would have preferred to see something to support it (even if it was a meh card. That and I doubt that there will ever be an AW2 but it hasn't stopped you guys from making supports for CoA before (Angel of Warning) but now it's too easy for an Opponent to break it and most Angel players are hurt by losing it. I don't see why we need to make an AW2 set just to have a card that says "Search Discard Pile for Chamber of Angels" or "Protect Set-Aside from Opponent's [or Evil cards]"

Another option is that you could not run Chamber. It isn't that great of a card. Please take everyone else's advice on your suggestions to heart.

The Guardian · « **Reply #666 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:06:08 AM »

Let's move the focus back to the new set--there's been a lot of discussion about Michael, but hardly any on the winner cards, which I find surprising.

I think all three are going to show up in a ton of decks this year (much like the winner cards last year).

Gabe · « **Reply #667 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:43:19 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on April 13, 2017, 10:06:08 AM

Let's move the focus back to the new set--there's been a lot of discussion about Michael, but hardly any on the winner cards, which I find surprising.

I think all three are going to show up in a ton of decks this year (much like the winner cards last year).

Will all 3 winner cards be in the winning T1-2P day again? I hope so!

The Guardian · « **Reply #668 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:55:14 AM »

Quote from: Four_Corners5 on April 13, 2017, 10:48:23 AM

Will all six player created cards be used in the same deck is more interesting to me.

A "Clay-seum" deck with a Pale or Brown defense would certainly make sense to include all 6.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #669 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:33:42 AM »

I would use all of these winner cards in a type 1 deck. Ends of the Earth is a great way to create lost souls without limiting your attack. Not Alone helps against capture artifacts and can go in any deck. And the Covenant is probably a staple because you don't have to waste space to put it in, basically gets sog back if you need to or becomes a wild card.

The Guardian · « **Reply #670 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:42:48 AM »

Quote from: TheHobbit on April 13, 2017, 11:33:42 AM

I would use all of these winner cards in a type 1 deck. Ends of the Earth is a great way to create lost souls without limiting your attack. Not Alone helps against capture artifacts and can go in any deck. And the Covenant is probably a staple because you don't have to waste space to put it in, basically gets sog back if you need to or becomes a wild card.

Not Alone doesn't fit in a straight silver deck, but that was by design.

SignoftheStar · « **Reply #671 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:54:34 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on April 12, 2017, 04:10:59 PM

I get the CBN enhancements thing, but consider the following:

If we made his ability just "CBN enhancements" again, wouldn't that be kinda boring? What would be the point of printing such a card when we already have 3 versions that do that, two of which are Revelation (one of which has WC and the other has the sweet artwork)?

If we made his ability "CBN enhancements" plus something else, then he pretty much makes all the other versions obsolete (with the one exception being the Kings version to use in a Daniel-based deck).

Neither of those options sounded very enticing, so we went a completely different direction. I honestly think that we now have 4 legit options (yes, even the Warriors version) depending on the type of offense you build, but I'm interested to hear what direction you would have taken with a new Michael.

I agree that re-reprinting Michael with CBN Enhancements would have been boring, and I completely concede that I would not have come up with a better, more interesting Michael.
I guess I just wouldn't have reprinted Michael at all, then. Weird, I know, what with the set being Revelation and everything, but... if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Don't reinvent the wheel (within a wheel)?
I dunno. Maybe I'm just picky. There are absolutely stunning cards in this set, but Michael is not one of them in my book.

SignoftheStar · « **Reply #672 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:58:18 AM »

Quote from: spacy32 on April 12, 2017, 07:23:27 PM

I would have made him 2 color like red and silver and kept the CBN ability so he could use even more enhancements.

Also card number 39 war in heaven is not opening

Ooooof, Red/Silver, don't make me drool!!
CBN ARMOR OF GOD!!!

megamanlan · « **Reply #673 on:** April 13, 2017, 11:59:09 AM »

Quote from: Red on April 13, 2017, 09:44:45 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on April 13, 2017, 01:37:37 AM
Quote from: Gabe on April 13, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: megamanlan on April 12, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
LOL

I have one question though... is there a way to have Servant Angel or something Search for Chamber? (Or just have something like Four Living Creatures Protect Chamber? Because I feel like one of those two (or both) could do something like that.

Chamber of Angels is not a card we're attempting to support with this year's set. The rumors that this was going to be Angel Wars 2 were only a joke.

I know that was a joke, but I would have preferred to see something to support it (even if it was a meh card. That and I doubt that there will ever be an AW2 but it hasn't stopped you guys from making supports for CoA before (Angel of Warning) but now it's too easy for an Opponent to break it and most Angel players are hurt by losing it. I don't see why we need to make an AW2 set just to have a card that says "Search Discard Pile for Chamber of Angels" or "Protect Set-Aside from Opponent's [or Evil cards]"
Another option is that you could not run Chamber. It isn't that great of a card. Please take everyone else's advice on your suggestions to heart.

Chamber is a lot better then you think. Unless you think losing Place cards, Weapons and everything else is fine. Or losing everything to a Banish all is fine. It's not the fastest card, but especially with the new Everlasting Beings and the Protection setup that can be run with Heavenly Temple, your better off playing it.

As for the player created cards... I like them. Not much else for me to say on them.

SignoftheStar · « **Reply #674 on:** April 13, 2017, 12:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Master Q on April 13, 2017, 11:57:06 AM

If CBN protected from an entire defense with a supercharged Joshua-type ability isn't amazing to you, I don't know what is...

Protecting from a single defense is still not interesting enough to me. Yeah, he can't be hurt by demons, but at least 85% of defenses don't use demons- even after the release of this set.
I would much rather be able to set up an array of silver Enhancements that will run the whole gamut of defenses out there and rest assured that my opponent won't be able to stop them.
Yes, I'm afraid that IS still more impressive to me.

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Author Topic: Revelation of John - Set List and Information (Read 98016 times)

Daniel

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