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Quote from: The Guardian on April 12, 2017, 02:26:25 PM

This could just be a difference in deck-building style or preference, but I think the versatility of the Seals is being vastly underrated by those who have been less than enthused with their abilities. A card that can be used to block as an EC or be used as a straight up battle winner on offense is so clutch.

Exactly.  In one playtest game (against TheGuardian, no less ), I kept looking for opportunities to play Third Seal on offense, but it just wasn't there.  Then I got attacked by a small hero, and the only EC that granted me initiative was Famine. 

So I blocked and played Besieging the City and Confusion.  There aren't many ECs that can play both of those, especially as a 2/3 EC   

I had that game blocked from my memory but now it's back...

Completely unrelated from replies on this page but i just noticed this on the Angel from the Altar's special ability: "You may banish up to X evil cards in a discard pile or you may exchange a good card in hand with a good card in Reserve. Cannot be negated if Golden Altar is in play." Shouldn't it read "Cannot be negated if The Golden Altar is in play."? The Golden Altar is obviously being referred to but I feel that might clear any confusion that could arise, if only just from RLKs. Just a thought. An absolutely wonderful set though!

I dunno... Kings Michael is my pride and joy.  He's just about my favorite card in the game. I ran him for so so long in a mono-Silver offense. Making your Enhancements CBN is an unbelievably hard act to follow.
I throw Angel's Sword and Wheel Within a Wheel on him, and now he's 15/10, has Site Access, is protected from my opponent's Evil Dominants, has special initiative against Humans, and all of that AND all of his Enhancements are ALL CBN. Once I got that set up, the game almost always fell right into my hands.
I can't do that with this Michael. Yeah, he can't be negated, but where are my beautiful CBN Enhancements?

And don't tell me that this kid from Spiritual Protection strikes more fear into your soul than the Warriors/Kings card art. I mean, it's alright, but come on. In the old art, you see a general leading his army. He's coming at you, his shield's on fire, his sword's on fire, EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE. Boy am I glad that I'm on his side.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just biased for the old one. Maybe I'm not as skilled a Redemption player as I thought and I don't know a good card when I see one.
But the new Michael really, REALLY underwhelms me, and the new Red Dragon makes me want to scream in delighted terror.
Immune to humans was always the best thing ever, but now he ignores Angels too?!?!? And he's CBP?!?!? Take my money. Just take it.

I'm upset they didn't use the art from Angel wars

Don't even.

Quote from: SignoftheStar on April 12, 2017, 03:24:00 PM

Quote from: Xonathan on April 12, 2017, 03:22:29 PM

I'm upset they didn't use the art from Angel wars

Don't even.

To infinite and beyond!

Not a flying toy.

I'm upset they didn't use the art from Angel wars

It might not be too late, I'll check with Gabe.

Completely unrelated from replies on this page but i just noticed this on the Angel from the Altar's special ability: "You may banish up to X evil cards in a discard pile or you may exchange a good card in hand with a good card in Reserve. Cannot be negated if Golden Altar is in play." Shouldn't it read "Cannot be negated if The Golden Altar is in play."? The Golden Altar is obviously being referred to but I feel that might clear any confusion that could arise, if only just from RLKs. Just a thought. An absolutely wonderful set though!

Yep, that has been corrected, but thank you for checking! We definitely appreciate people seeing stuff like that because we can't catch everything. 

I believe Gabe will be releasing updated images to Land of Redemption this weekend.

I dunno... Kings Michael is my pride and joy.  He's just about my favorite card in the game. I ran him for so so long in a mono-Silver offense. Making your Enhancements CBN is an unbelievably hard act to follow.
I throw Angel's Sword and Wheel Within a Wheel on him, and now he's 15/10, has Site Access, is protected from my opponent's Evil Dominants, has special initiative against Humans, and all of that AND all of his Enhancements are ALL CBN. Once I got that set up, the game almost always fell right into my hands.
I can't do that with this Michael. Yeah, he can't be negated, but where are my beautiful CBN Enhancements?

I get the CBN enhancements thing, but consider the following:

If we made his ability just "CBN enhancements" again, wouldn't that be kinda boring? What would be the point of printing such a card when we already have 3 versions that do that, two of which are Revelation (one of which has WC and the other has the sweet artwork)?

If we made his ability "CBN enhancements" plus something else, then he pretty much makes all the other versions obsolete (with the one exception being the Kings version to use in a Daniel-based deck).

Neither of those options sounded very enticing, so we went a completely different direction. I honestly think that we now have 4 legit options (yes, even the Warriors version) depending on the type of offense you build, but I'm interested to hear what direction you would have taken with a new Michael.

Micheal is good, I'm not sure if he's "Enhancements played by Micheal cannot be negated" good, but if I had a way to easily swap between the two of them, I'd consider running both of them.

Red Dragon is a monster. I can't wait to try him out, and I dream of drafting him.

Not Alone is cool.

I like Covenant of Prayer, it'll allow any deck to use the Reserve even if they are running a theme that didn't get more specific reserve interactions.

I absolutely love Ends of the Earth, I think it may be the best Multi Colored Site in the game (although some decks may prefer Dragon Raid or New Jerusalem).

Is no else excited because Covenant of Prayer can get your SoG back or is it just me?

Thanks Gabe for the awesome card!

You're welcome! I feel like Confusion had such a huge impact on the meta this past year that I wanted to see a way to change that. We can make all kinds of preemptive counters, but if Confusion goes off before you get them it still doesn't matter. We generally don't ever want cards to come back from being banished so we might not see that ability on a card again.

Quote from: Xonathan on April 12, 2017, 04:55:05 PM

Is no else excited because Covenant of Prayer can get your SoG back or is it just me?

Thanks Gabe for the awesome card!

You're welcome! I feel like Confusion had such a huge impact on the meta this past year that I wanted to see a way to change that. We can make all kinds of preemptive counters, but if Confusion goes off before you get them it still doesn't matter. We generally don't ever want cards to come back from being banished so we might not see that ability on a card again.

And THIS is a prime example of my original argument as to why The Watchman's ability should be changed (and, thankfully was) from "Negate Confusion" to "Negate evil search and shuffle abilities."  There will always be a new card that counters an old one and makes the old one not so hot after a while, so let's keep the abilities general and greatly limit abilities that target specific cards!  Can I get an "Amen!"?!

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