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because angels/demons otherwise cannot be converted

because angels/demons otherwise cannot be converted

In the REG a convert ability is synonymous with falling, as immune and protect are synonymous. And angels can be converted so long as the convert ability specifically targets the angel.

About Sorcerers, it sounds to me that you could discard a Lost Soul, I'm assuming if you try to discard a Lost Soul it goes into play instead as per the general discarding from deck rules, am I right about this?

Just had a thought about Sorcerers. I assume it's intended for "take it to hand" and "or discard it to discard a good card" to be separate clauses, but the way it's worded it could be construed to mean you can either take it to hand or discard it to end up with the "discard a good card" benefit.

So you're saying the wording should be something like this?

"Reveal the top or bottom card of deck. If it is not a good card, take it to hand. You may discard it instead to discard a good card."

On my initial reading of the ability though I felt that you had the option to take it to hand or discard it to discard a good card. I didn't see any ambiguity in it but I understand what you're saying.

What's scary about this ability is that it can get rid of Three Woes if Woes is aligned to good.

I just realized that there are two emperors in between Vitellus and Domitian that aren't cards yet... hmmmm

Two situation/combos were discovered which would have led to Lamb's Righteousness being able to rescue a captured Hero on the opponent's turn...one of those situations we were okay with, the other not so much. Can you figure out what those situations/combos were? 

Consequently, the condition for Lamb's Righteousness will be changing from "If you have not rescued a Lost Soul this turn" to simply "If rescuing." We probably should have just remembered KISS -- Keep It Simple Silly. 

So how does Polycarp work exactly?

Excellent questions! This is one of the more complicated cards we've printed in a long time. Partially because it's doing some new things we're not used to. The elders have had many discussions about this to make sure we understand it.

If your opponent plays something like dream where they interrupt, draw 3, then play an enhancement, how much of that gets insteaded?  dream would have to resolve before he could activate, so another enhancement will have been played because of the instead, what happens to that?

What happens here will depend on whether or not Dream is played during Special Initiative. Let's look at two scenarios:

A) Dream is played during regular initiative. If you Polycarp Dream it will no longer interrupt any ongoing abilities (protection for example) but you will continue with the draw 3 and play next abilities as normal.

B) An Evil Character is being removed giving it's owner SI. They play Dream to interrupt the removal. As soon as the interrupt attempts to active, before the draw 3 and play next, Polycarp can "instead" the interrupt. If he does, before any more abilities on Dream can resolve, we go back to the Evil Character being removed, granting another opportunity to interrupt/negate. If you interrupt or negate successfully on the second attempt, then you can complete the D3 and play next of Dream. If you don't successfully stop the removal the D3 and play next of Dream will never activate because there is no character in battle to activate on.

When the triggering event occurs, the ability with the instead activates immediately, inserting itself before any additional abilities complete.

The above quote from the REG supports that Polycarp activates when the interrupt occurs, prior to the D3 and play next abilities.

If a removing ability is negated (or cannot reactivate after an interrupt effect is played) and the negate (or interrupt effect that prevented reactivation) is later undone such that the original removing ability reactivates, this would trigger a separate instance of Special Initiative.

The above quote from the REG supports that if your interrupt/negate doesn't happen you're given a new opportunity to interrupt/negate.

Also, with peter out, can't you just heal him when he gets discarded, making it so he never dies and all you NT enhancements become almost effectively CBN? (correct me if I'm wrong, but heal is not an instead ability, so he is still paying his cost by being discarded and his ability works, but them peter heals him so he returns to territory)

We did a lot of work to clean up the healing rules last summer. One of the resulting changes is that when a character is healed from discard, they are never actually discarded. If you heal a martyr who discards himself as the cost for an effect (such as Polycarp) then the cost was never paid because the character was never discarded. The entire martyr theme would be broken with Peter if that was not the case!

When a character is healed from being discarded, it is placed in the territory of the player with permanent control, and the discard is not considered to have completed for the purposes of abilities or conditions that trigger based on a character or card being discarded.

The above quote from the REG supports that the healed character was never discarded so the cost is not paid.

So after setting my spreadsheet for the new set there are a few things we can decipher from the numbers for the cards yet to be released:


12:  will be a artifact or covenant

14:  will be a covenant, curse or fortress

16:  will be a fortress or a site

18:  falls between New Jerusalem / Bride of Christ & Babylon / The Harlot, so it will either be another like this or a site.

22:  will be a lost soul

26 - 28:  will be a "Multi-Type" card since it falls between Behemoth and Fourth Seal / Death.

30 - 41:  will either be "Multi-Type" cards, Multi-Color Heroes, or something new we don't know about (have no spoilers, just speculations).

54:  will be a multi-color hero or enhancement

61:  will be a multi-color enhancement

64 - 65:  will be a multi-color enhancement, blue card, clay card or gold hero

67-69:  will be gold card, green card, purple card, red card or a silver hero.

71 & 74:  will be silver heroes

81 & 82:  will be a silver hero or enhancement

88:  will be a multi-color evil character

92:  will be a multi-color evil character or enhancement

96, 98 & 99:  will be multi-color enhancements

102 - 109:  will be a multi-color enhancement, black card, brown card, crimson character.

114 - 119:  will be a gray card, or orange character.

122:  will be an orange character

126 & 127:  will be an orange enhancement or pale green character.

Two situation/combos were discovered which would have led to Lamb's Righteousness being able to rescue a captured Hero on the opponent's turn...one of those situations we were okay with, the other not so much. Can you figure out what those situations/combos were? 

Consequently, the condition for Lamb's Righteousness will be changing from "If you have not rescued a Lost Soul this turn" to simply "If rescuing." We probably should have just remembered KISS -- Keep It Simple Silly. 

Does that mean it can't rescue a soul if played in a battle challenge?

So after setting my spreadsheet for the new set there are a few things we can decipher from the numbers for the cards yet to be released:

All of your deductions are correct, and you even made me realize that we had an error on one of the previews. Four Horsemen is actually card #92, not #93. #93 is the one that has not been previewed yet. 

Spoilers from today's article have been added to the list! Sorry for the delay, getting ready for a weekend trip took up more of my day than I was expecting.

Art/concepts of the Bowls turned out fantastic results! Very nice, especially love the icons in the abilities! A couple things:

1. Why abbreviate Joseph Mallord William Turner to J.M.W. Turner on the Second bowl, but not the Fourth?

2. I like what happened to Beast from the Earth. But...

3. What happened to this guy??

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I was thinking of incorporating him into my deck (still am for the colors/identifiers), but his ability's been nerfed to oblivion (and numbers decreased as well)... Is there not a more exciting ability that he can have?