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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #125 on: March 24, 2017, 04:02:03 PM »
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #126 on: March 24, 2017, 04:14:44 PM »
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On Patmos, feels like the ability should read "When you play..." instead of "If you play...".  Is there any way to get a site onto the field of play without playing it?

"When" and "If" have the exact same meaning for special abilities in Redemption. In recent years we've chosen to use "If" because it's shorter.
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #127 on: March 24, 2017, 04:30:53 PM »
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On Patmos, feels like the ability should read "When you play..." instead of "If you play...".  Is there any way to get a site onto the field of play without playing it?

"When" and "If" have the exact same meaning for special abilities in Redemption. In recent years we've chosen to use "If" because it's shorter.

Thanks for the explanation.  I know other games where the distinction is important, just could not remember if that was the case with Redemption  :D

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #128 on: March 24, 2017, 06:06:07 PM »
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Figures you guys pick the day I'm not on my computer much to spoil THREE new cards.

Not a bad thing just means I have to catch up. :P

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #129 on: March 24, 2017, 06:35:14 PM »
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Thanks for the explanation.  I know other games where the distinction is important, just could not remember if that was the case with Redemption  :D

You're welcome. To further clarify, cards use "When" or "If" to indicate a one time instant condition being met. For Redemption the important distinction is between those and "While" which indicates an ongoing condition being met.

Speaking of cards that have an "If" clause... this one gives a lot of different decks access to the new reserve area. If combined with the right cards you could trigger that "If" clause multiple times!

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #130 on: March 24, 2017, 06:43:07 PM »
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Soul nickname in identifiers, yes please!

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #131 on: March 24, 2017, 06:55:22 PM »
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Figures you guys pick the day I'm not on my computer much to spoil THREE new cards.

Not a bad thing just means I have to catch up. :P

You're missing at least one still 😉 Gotta search a little
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #132 on: March 24, 2017, 07:12:07 PM »
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Is it on this thread? I thought I'd gotten all of them....

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #133 on: March 24, 2017, 07:18:17 PM »
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You could always ask your minions to find it for you.  ;)
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #134 on: March 24, 2017, 07:48:55 PM »
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Yeah I must have completely missed wherever it was spoiled originally, though I got it from someone's post here with spoilers that didn't work, but the post is deleted now.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #135 on: March 24, 2017, 07:50:31 PM »
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The Guardian just spoiled a new one
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #136 on: March 24, 2017, 07:54:05 PM »
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We sure are making Scott work hard. Sorry, Scott!
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #137 on: March 24, 2017, 08:10:03 PM »
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The Guardian just spoiled a new one
Thanks for the heads up! I've added it to the list.

Regarding the special ability, though, couldn't the search clause just say "or you may search deck for one and put it in play" since you defined "a gold Hero from Luke or John" in the heal clause? I know it's not exactly wanting for space but it would be shorter, lol.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #138 on: March 24, 2017, 08:23:44 PM »
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #139 on: March 24, 2017, 08:47:05 PM »
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 You are so wrong for that lol
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #140 on: March 24, 2017, 09:52:23 PM »
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #141 on: March 24, 2017, 09:58:00 PM »
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Whhaaaaaaaaa   :laugh:
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #142 on: March 24, 2017, 10:04:40 PM »
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That set number, though. Makes me not believe that this is real, lol.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #143 on: March 24, 2017, 10:11:50 PM »
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Same lol
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #144 on: March 24, 2017, 11:22:32 PM »
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I'm just wondering if they all will have Orange Brigade. =D

My guess is they will all be dual including orange

;D Sounds like what I did when I made my versions. I love it when my version of a card actually gets into the actual version.
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #145 on: March 24, 2017, 11:32:04 PM »
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I'm just wondering if they all will have Orange Brigade. =D

My guess is they will all be dual including orange

Less than 5 but more than 0 have Orange brigade.  ::)
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2017, 01:48:40 AM »
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I'm guessing 4 have Orange Brigade?
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2017, 02:10:10 AM »
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I'm guessing 4 have Orange Brigade?

That is incorrect...but you'll have to wait for the preview article to learn the right answer.  8)
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2017, 04:39:55 AM »
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Hmm... sounds mysterious!
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2017, 11:41:13 AM »
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One reason we're previewing cards before they are finalized is because the community feedback is important to us! We're not looking to change the functionality of the cards, but little things like "trumpet" vs. "Trumpet", card wording, punctuation and grammar are important to get right. The play testers become so familiar with what we know these cards are supposed to do that we sometimes overlook important details that the community sees!

I want to take a moment to address some of the feedback give on the spoilers we've been dropping on the boards.

Would it be worded as "Trumpet" Enhancement instead of Enhancement with "Trumpet" in the Title? I don't think people will be confused by that shortening of terms.
We use "Trumpet" in the title because it can apply to more than just the 7 trumpet Enhancements. For example, the CBN extends to the Hero since he has "Trumpet" in his card title. That was actually a recent change. He used to be called "Trumpeting Angels" but that doesn't qualify as "Trumpet" in the title (since it says Trumpeting) so we changed it.

Back story please!  Unless of course this is already scheduled for LoR
The state promo of Everlasting Beings has been out of print for a few years. Our reprint started out pretty close to a modern version of the old card (with wording and targeting updates plus territory class). When JD saw it he suggested that we add a banding component if it's used in battle. We're always looking for ways to encourage battle phase interaction and to make players want to play territory class cards in battle so we used his idea!

The only thing I'd add to Patmos would probably be a Roman identifier perhaps.
I didn't personally do the research on this one, but my peers tell me Patmos was not Roman, it was Greek. The Romans may have occupied it, similar to Jerusalem and several other locations that we do not count as "Roman".

Regarding the special ability, though, couldn't the search clause just say "or you may search deck for one and put it in play" since you defined "a gold Hero from Luke or John" in the heal clause? I know it's not exactly wanting for space but it would be shorter, lol.
We're always looking for ways to shorten abilities while keeping it clear what they do. I love this suggestion. Thanks, Scott!

While we've been writing and prepping articles to post on Land of Redemption next week we've been trying to spoil about 3 cards per day on the boards. Keep your eyes out over the weekend because a few more new cards are sure to pop up!
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