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GabeRe: Falsely accused« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 07:00:42 PM »When the time comes, if the game's leadership deams it appropriate, I will share footage and elaborate on multiple ways you've cheated so that people can be on the look out. While I believe it's a small minority who cheat, I'm not naive enough to think you're the first or only person. IMO, the best way to avoid this in the future is to inform the honest players so they can know what to look for.
soul seeker Re: Falsely accused« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 10:01:32 PM »An update about the decision and video from Gabe..."To say that the video we've been requested to release is the sole reason for the disqualification would be false, therefore we will not release the video out of context. When we release the video (which we have agreed to do) it will be part of the larger picture that led to the disqualification at Nationals. The footage will not be unedited but it will be unaltered. This issue has already taken too much of my time and putting that together will take more of it, but I'll get to it as soon as I'm able. Thank you for your patience."
The videos have been up for a little while now. Find them on the Three Lions Gaming YouTube page here:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9rXmgLKEx1L7cr44M_kdyQ
QuoteGabeRe: Falsely accused« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 07:00:42 PM »When the time comes, if the game's leadership deams it appropriate, I will share footage and elaborate on multiple ways you've cheated so that people can be on the look out. While I believe it's a small minority who cheat, I'm not naive enough to think you're the first or only person. IMO, the best way to avoid this in the future is to inform the honest players so they can know what to look for.Quotesoul seeker Re: Falsely accused« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 10:01:32 PM »An update about the decision and video from Gabe..."To say that the video we've been requested to release is the sole reason for the disqualification would be false, therefore we will not release the video out of context. When we release the video (which we have agreed to do) it will be part of the larger picture that led to the disqualification at Nationals. The footage will not be unedited but it will be unaltered. This issue has already taken too much of my time and putting that together will take more of it, but I'll get to it as soon as I'm able. Thank you for your patience."Will we be seeing the video this year?
I'd also like to ask which is the video/are the videos in question? Watched the Type1 2 Player round 8 so far and the beginning of the Sealed Deck round 6. Within both no shuffling at the beginning of the game can be seen.There is some shuffling to be seen in Type1 2 player round 8 - is this the one at which the situation is referred to? Some elaboration would be really appreciated (but I understand if it cannot / will not be given - but a hint which video is the one in question would be really nice).
The cheating incident I believe has been covered on another post and/or deleted.
Can we get someone, with official insight into what happened, to point out specific time stamps and what happened at those points? I can see a few things that seem to be misplays but that is an admittedly optimistic interpretation. Note from the guy who edited the videos and put them online (a.k.a. me): I intentionally left out all pregame shuffling. It was my call, not something I was told to do. I really did not see the point in showing it because each of us can watch JD shuffle and come to our own conclusions based almost purely on the preconceived notions we brought to the video. I for one was not present and was not in either JD's nor the judges's shoes. I trust the leadership who has been put in place to not only judge fairly but seek reconciliation when the dust settles. Pray for all involved to glorify God in the way we love, repent, and forgive.
This might get me in hot water,but....1st: a person is accused of cheating at last year's Nats.2nd: said person had that dealt with by the elders and/or higher-ups?3rd: whether there was/wasn't video evidence isn't our concern,the elders appointed have dealt with it.4th: Rob, I believe , introduced a deck shuffling rule or rule change?5th: If you want a video about the so-called card shuffle, might I propose that 3 lions gaming makes a video with someone to show how future players what the proper way is to shuffle card decks.Bottom line.....let this cheating thing/video die. You want something done. Then go, get on your knees before a Holy and Just Saviour and talk to Him about it. Cast this care upon Him and let it go.
Quote from: Sadness on February 17, 2018, 09:14:52 PMThis might get me in hot water,but....1st: a person is accused of cheating at last year's Nats.2nd: said person had that dealt with by the elders and/or higher-ups?3rd: whether there was/wasn't video evidence isn't our concern,the elders appointed have dealt with it.4th: Rob, I believe , introduced a deck shuffling rule or rule change?5th: If you want a video about the so-called card shuffle, might I propose that 3 lions gaming makes a video with someone to show how future players what the proper way is to shuffle card decks.Bottom line.....let this cheating thing/video die. You want something done. Then go, get on your knees before a Holy and Just Saviour and talk to Him about it. Cast this care upon Him and let it go.I like this idea. We may just do that.
To be clear, I neither agreed nor disagreed with the decision that was made.
