Author Topic: Cloud of Witnesses - Set List and Information (Read 43255 times)

Gabe · « **Reply #200 on:** May 08, 2016, 09:31:26 AM »

Quote from: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM

What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.

There are a number of things to be considered with the new version of Falling Away. Enough that Land of Redemption will do a full article on this card in the future. Rob gave us a schedule of previewing all 129 cards in 4 weeks. That doesn't allow us to do every card justice as we reveal them the first time around.

browarod · « **Reply #201 on:** May 08, 2016, 09:43:19 AM »

Which also means that we have a full TWO MORE WEEKS of Cloud of Witnesses spoiler articles! I, for one, am super excited.

Gabe · « **Reply #202 on:** May 08, 2016, 09:53:05 AM »

Quote from: Browa on May 08, 2016, 09:43:19 AM

Which also means that we have a full TWO MORE WEEKS of Cloud of Witnesses spoiler articles! I, for one, am super excited.

That's kind of true...

All cards will be spoiled by the end of this week. However, we already have some other great features ready to share in waiting for the full set to be spoiled - including:

A podcast with T1-2P National Champion John Earley discussion Cloud of Witnesses and how it will impact the new meta!
A video by Redoubter explaining how Cloud of Witnesses tells an amazing story!
A "high level play" (test) game between T1-2P National Campion John Earley and Gabe Isbell.
Articles from the create a card winners from Nationals 2015 explaining the card they created.
...And more!

The Guardian · « **Reply #203 on:** May 08, 2016, 11:11:47 AM »

Quote from: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM

What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.
Or maybe I'm still just a noob.

Yes, I think you are missing something.

Now I'm not going to claim that the new one is better than the old version, but I do believe they are comparable. If used correctly, it will still result in your opponent having one less rescued soul, right?. Will it always work to stop a rescue? No, but then again sometimes the old Falling Away doesn't work either if your opponent is using GoyS or Lampstand.

Not to mention it's versatility...often times the best play will be to target your opponent's attacker, but what if they attack with a band and you have no ECs? Simply convert one of your own Heroes to an EC in whatever brigade you need and you can potentially do more damage than simply taking back the free Lost Soul you had to give up for lack of an EC.

All this and more will be explained in a future LoR article, but don't be so quick to dismiss

Xonathan · « **Reply #204 on:** May 08, 2016, 01:03:43 PM »

Now I wonder what the last two Ultra rares will be. I feel like one will be the last Dom and the other might be Coliseum or a lost soul maybe. We shall see!

SignoftheStar · « **Reply #205 on:** May 08, 2016, 01:10:57 PM »

Tip of the hat to Gabe and The Guardian. I am very interested in the Land of Redemption article on Falling Away.

kariusvega · « **Reply #206 on:** May 08, 2016, 02:22:21 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on May 08, 2016, 11:11:47 AM

Quote from: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.
Or maybe I'm still just a noob.

Yes, I think you are missing something.

Now I'm not going to claim that the new one is better than the old version, but I do believe they are comparable. If used correctly, it will still result in your opponent having one less rescued soul, right?. Will it always work to stop a rescue? No, but then again sometimes the old Falling Away doesn't work either if your opponent is using GoyS or Lampstand.

Not to mention it's versatility...often times the best play will be to target your opponent's attacker, but what if they attack with a band and you have no ECs? Simply convert one of your own Heroes to an EC in whatever brigade you need and you can potentially do more damage than simply taking back the free Lost Soul you had to give up for lack of an EC.

All this and more will be explained in a future LoR article, but don't be so quick to dismiss

Love/Grail + EC with horses + new Falling Away = amazing

Redoubter · « **Reply #207 on:** May 08, 2016, 02:39:15 PM »

Quote from: SignoftheStar on May 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM

What is with the new Falling Away? I'm sorry, but am I missing something? Is one block really better than reversing a successful rescue attempt? Did we reprint it because of the popularity of things like Lampstand that ward against it? I've long said that Falling Away is one of the most powerful cards in the game, and this seems like a downgrade to me.

It is a more versatile card, and something that can actually be more useful in a lot of decks or against a lot of archetypes. Stopping a rescue before the soul is in LoR really is equivalent to undoing the rescue (more so when #5, or #3 if SoG/NJ haven't been played, is the rescue); it also has fewer protections than there are against the current FA, though of course at the expense of not always working still.

The point was not to create an "upgrade" on Falling Away, that wouldn't make much sense for us to do; just like everything else that is being "reprinted" as part of this set (including some old staple characters), the point was to try and make something new and thought-provoking for deck-building and strategy, as well as to allow for more options that people could legitimately choose to work with.

All that said, I can tell you that playtesters have had fun with this card, and found it to be extremely useful. Will it replace the old FA? Will you use either? Who knows, but the fact that there are legitimate options to choose between was something we wanted for the game.

browarod · « **Reply #208 on:** May 08, 2016, 09:13:43 PM »

Okay the list is up-to-date with all spoilers so far! (I'm pretty sure)

jesse · « **Reply #209 on:** May 08, 2016, 10:38:00 PM »

Thanks Browa! You're doing a great job. It's very convenient to have the list all in one place and exciting to follow along with the overall progress of the spoilers!

Gabe · « **Reply #210 on:** May 08, 2016, 11:26:35 PM »

Full set lists for Cloud of Witnesses (both excel and PDF) as well as images for all the cards will be added to the resource section of Land of Redemption the week of May 16th.

Rob has not given any further indication of the release date. It will vary depending on the printer, shipping and the requirements for package as well as Rob's other work load. I'm hoping for a late May release!

kram1138 · « **Reply #211 on:** May 08, 2016, 11:44:31 PM »

Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?

Gabe · « **Reply #212 on:** May 08, 2016, 11:53:57 PM »

Quote from: kram1138 on May 08, 2016, 11:44:31 PM

Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?

I'm not personally doing the Lackey update so I can't speak directly to that. Whomever is doing it welcome to contact me directly to obtain all card images in a nice little package, if they need them.

browarod · « **Reply #213 on:** May 09, 2016, 04:27:18 AM »

Today's spoilers have been added! These are, hands down, my 2 favorite cards from the entire set.

dermo4christ · « **Reply #214 on:** May 09, 2016, 09:43:19 AM »

Those cards are friggin' incredible!!!! Genesis blue has just become my favorite!!!!!

spacy32 · « **Reply #215 on:** May 09, 2016, 11:03:49 AM »

I ask on the LoR site but Enoch can be rescued like a lost soul because he never died? Does this mean we will see an Elijah card with the same ability because he never died also?

browarod · « **Reply #216 on:** May 10, 2016, 01:20:05 AM »

Today's flood survivor spoilers (all SEVEN of them) have been added!

Can't wait to buy some packs and (hopefully) get some of this Genesis support to revamp my deck!

Ironisaac · « **Reply #217 on:** May 10, 2016, 08:31:38 AM »

I bet the ark will be the national promo.

kariusvega · « **Reply #218 on:** May 10, 2016, 12:47:57 PM »

Quote from: Ironisaac on May 10, 2016, 08:31:38 AM

I bet the ark will be the national promo.

good call!! i wonder if it will work with a new beginning or the flood!

Noah · « **Reply #219 on:** May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM »

Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . .

Gabe · « **Reply #220 on:** May 10, 2016, 07:03:03 PM »

Quote from: tripleplayNo3 on May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM

Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . .

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.

Noah · « **Reply #221 on:** May 10, 2016, 08:47:17 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 07:03:03 PM

Quote from: tripleplayNo3 on May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . .

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.

Just noticed that Eternal Covenant is #7 as well . . .

Ironisaac · « **Reply #222 on:** May 10, 2016, 08:56:54 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 07:03:03 PM

Quote from: tripleplayNo3 on May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . .

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.

So... Do you have a spoiler of this "John"?

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #223 on:** May 10, 2016, 09:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Ironisaac on May 10, 2016, 08:56:54 PM

Quote from: Gabe on May 10, 2016, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: tripleplayNo3 on May 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
Is there any significance to the fact that Eternal Inheritance is card #77 in the set, or am I just reading between the lines again . . .

Possibly... It might also be significant that John's card is #100 and Daniel' is #13.

So... Do you have a spoiler of this "John"?

I think he means that it is a player made card, not a John.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #224 on:** May 10, 2016, 11:02:42 PM »

Quote from: kram1138 on May 08, 2016, 11:44:31 PM

Any idea when it will be available on lackey yet?

Earlier today I received the final text and card images, and will start entering them in preparation for an update. I am going to try to track down information on when I would be allowed to release the update.

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