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1) Trumpet and Sword's special ability is: "If a Tabernacle priest is in play, negate and discard a single-color Site or evil Fortress. Discard up to X human Evil Characters." Is the 2nd sentence of the special ability dependent upon there being a tabernacle priest in play, just as the first is? Because it's a new sentence, it seems that "Discard up to X human Evil Characters" is not contingent upon there being a Tabernacle priest in play...

2) What happens when a cannot be negated is against a dominant? Example: my opponent plays United Kingdom on David, bands a bunch of heroes in, and then I play Strife. Does Strife work or not?

Thanks for the help! 

1) They are separated by a period so it is no longer dependant on there being a tabernacle priest in play, meaning you can still discard ECs without a tab. priest in play.

2) Strife is not a negate, it's a withdraw so all heroes would return regardless of United Kingdom being CBN. Another example that better answers your question I think is if I play DoN on a CBN artifact. In that case, the artifact is discarded but even though it's a dominant that tried to negate it, it is still not negated and the effect lasts until the end of the phase. Overall, dominants do not negate CBN cards, they're just inherently CBN themselves.

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EDIT: So as you can see, I agree with CS.

Thanks! It just seems that Strife is negating United Kingdom, because it is causing an opposite action of what United Kingdom is causing.

Amazing fast response time btw! Thanks again!

Unless a card specifically says "Negate blah blah blah" it's not a negate. One way to think of how it's not necessarily undoing UK (which is actually Unified Kingdom, not that big island off the coast of France) is that you could choose to keep one of the heroes they banded into battle instead, leaving them with a different hero than they began with.

Quote from: jesse on July 14, 2014, 11:12:33 PM

Thanks! It just seems that Strife is negating United Kingdom, because it is causing an opposite action of what United Kingdom is causing.

Amazing fast response time btw! Thanks again!

UK (which is actually Unified Kingdom, not that big island off the coast of France) i

Technically the United Kingdom contains the big island, the northern part of Ireland and many small islands.  The big island is Great Britain.

Technically the United Kingdom contains the big island, the northern part of Ireland and many small islands.  The big island is Great Britain.

England is just that: England.
Britain is England and Wales.
Great Britain is generally referred to as England, Wales, and Scotland, though it's only the one island.
United Kingdom is all territories under the rule of Her Majesty.