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Hi all, it's been a while! I was digging through some Redemption history for a little video I’m making, and maybe you all can help me fill in some gaps. I haven’t bought any new cards since 2013’s starter decks and I see things have changed quite a bit!

I’m focusing on the effect of Haman’s Plot from back in 2002, as a lens for covering Redemption in broad strokes as a whole.

  • When did the first card get banned? As far as I can tell, the first card to get banned was the 1995 “Lost Souls”, banned maybe in 2019? Is that right?
  • Can anyone find the T1 2P National winning decks from 2006 and 2022? I found the rest of the winning decks ('02-'26) on the forum or Land of Redemption.
  • What are the most expensive single cards now?
  • In online tournament play, are/were competitors forced to rip physical copies of Haman’s Plot (Patriarchs)? (I’m guessing with set rotation existing now, that hasn’t come up in several years.)
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by TimMierz on Today at 08:45:04 AM »
Thematically, I like the concept of cooperative Redemption - working together to save Lost Souls feels very "right."

Mechanically, I think it's an uphill battle trying to take what's good about Redemption and port it over to a cooperative format. What I loved about it when I played was the mind games, the planning for the unknown, the back-and-forth of a battle. With no one controlling an opponent, I feel like a lot of the highlights of Redemption play would be difficult to replicate.

That's why I think this would be best not as a gameplay format using existing cards, but a full spinoff. Besides the Lorcana game mode that YMT mentioned above, there are a few existing "Living Card Games" that are designed for cooperative play. (For those who don't know, Living Card Games are customizable like CCGs but with each purchasable set containing a fixed, knowable set of cards.)

A Redemption-esque cooperative Living Card Game may be doable with a lot of work, but I sure can't speak for whether that's something Cactus would want to commit the resources towards.

Some that I'm aware of, for inspiration (although I've never played them):
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game (2011)
Arkham Horror: The Card Game (2016)
Marvel Champions: The Card Game (2019)
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by MrMiYoda on June 22, 2026, 09:07:01 PM »
This whole concept might fit the 'team' concept being organized by players, some who even already have uniforms.
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by YourMathTeacher on June 22, 2026, 08:42:27 PM »
To expound for those who have not played Disney Lorcana Illumineers Quest (hitherto referred as DLIQ) or similar types of games, I will give a rough framework for the idea. Please note that this is by no means a final product and would require a group of smart people to create (with minor input from me).

1.) Players bring their own decks with existing Redemption cards. The decks (maybe) only include heroes with appropriate enhancements, dominants, artifacts and fortresses. Decks would also include Lost Souls.

2.) The Antagonist Deck would be pre-constructed and include evil characters, enhancements, dominants and artifacts. These cards would be marked somehow so as not be used in normal tournament play. This is because they would be considerably stronger than normal to provide a challenge for multiple teamwork players.

3.) There would be a difficulty level indicator/card that would add buffs for the Antagonist's cards. For example: Level 1 - Cards remain as written. Level 2 - All cards gain cannot be interrupted. Level 3 - All cards cannot be protected against. Level 4 - All cards cannot be negated or protected against.

4.) There would be a designated prison camp where all defeated/discarded heroes and Lost Souls go to throughout the game. This would represent the losing condition for the players. If 30 cards are in prison then it is game over.

5.) Players would be rescuing Lost Souls, which are placed in a common area when drawn. Any player can rescue any Lost Soul by defeating the Antagonists' evil characters. The winning condition for the players is when EACH player has rescued a preset number of LSs. There is not a running total for the group (to avoid one player taking over the game).

6.) Any player cards that target an "opponent" always target the Antagonist. Antagonist cards that target a singular hero/player, the hero/player is chosen by the group. Some cards will target "all players" or "all heroes."

7.) The design of the Antagonist deck will encourage players to think outside the box and maybe use cards that are not used as often. The deck will have powerful and destructive cards. This is a staple for cooperative games in order to offset the combined power of the players. The players will usually need to work and strategize together in order to win.


**This is all subject to change and improvement. I just wanted to give the gist of the idea.**
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by MrMiYoda on June 22, 2026, 06:22:29 PM »
So excited about this concept! Praying and declaring ideas be formed into a playtest design soon!
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by Prof Underwood on June 22, 2026, 05:40:01 PM »
I think this is a great idea.  Co-op games are been really popular for a long time now.  They hit mainstream with "Shadows Over Camelot" and "Pandemic" decades ago.  But they keep coming out each year, and many players prefer working together with their playgroup to trying to defeat them.

I think it would be possible to create such a game using Redemption cards, and would be willing to help out with designing such a project.
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Unofficial Tournaments / Re: Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by YourMathTeacher on June 22, 2026, 03:36:54 PM »
I don't need to be "anonymous" even if I am "infamous." and I certainly am not a "legend," but maybe more of a "nuisance."  ;)

For those who have already heard about cooperative games, I was trying to explain the idea of having a stand alone cooperative game that uses Redemption cards. In my opinion, I think Disney Lorcana did this very well with the "Illumineer's Quest" product. The idea is to create a special deck for a universal antagonist that several players join forces against. The deck would have special rules and an autonomous game mechanic so that no additional human has to be playing against the others. The special deck could be a separately sold product or perhaps even a print-n-play download.

This would not be a separate category for tournaments, but rather an alternative for families that are not interested in competitive play. Just food for thought.  :)
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Unofficial Tournaments / Cooperative Format Thinktank!!!
« Last post by MrMiYoda on June 22, 2026, 02:46:21 PM »
I have never heard of this concept till a few minutes ago. Never even had this as a semi (not total) 'concept name' for DnD when it was launched in the late 70's.

Can we do this for Redemption at all? I think so! I pray and declare our Redemption geniuses invent this category soon for one of our Redemption legends (anonymous) to enjoy & start playing d game again. Shud this future category be launched one day in Redemption, u cud see this old man play it till his last breath....

Per My Research:
"Cooperative games—often called "co-op"—are multiplayer games where players work together as a team to achieve a common goal rather than competing against each other. The group either wins or loses as a single entity, emphasizing camaraderie, shared strategy, and pooled resources over individual achievement.

Unlike traditional games where players try to beat one another, co-op games are usually structured as "players versus the game"."

Here is a useful vid shared with us by one of our legendary champs as he makes a homecoming to Redemption:
https://youtu.be/eiDA8pknv5o?is=Wa9rkNXUcfmmswqj

--- THINKTANK....NOW!!!
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Redemption® Market / Re: Nats2026 Travel Fund Sale
« Last post by MrMiYoda on June 22, 2026, 12:47:11 AM »
Three more destinations....thanks thus far to all my Godsends...
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Redemption® Market / Re: It’s been a minute
« Last post by boyd122 on June 21, 2026, 10:13:01 PM »








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