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ProRedemption Open!
« on: May 02, 2012, 11:18:39 AM »
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http://proredemption.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=decks&thread=6

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Re: ProRedemption Open!
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 11:26:48 AM »
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We already have forums for Redemption. Just because you're dissatisfied with them doesn't mean that that is going to change, nor does it mean that people are going to flock to your forum. I admire your dedication (in your shoes I would quit before creating a whole new forum, so you're certainly more ambitious than I), but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Good luck either way.

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 11:50:02 AM »
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Other CCGs have other sites. Having one site seems almost bare.... And I'm not hoping for a flock... slow very slow growth is what I want.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
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We already have forums for Redemption. Just because you're dissatisfied with them doesn't mean that that is going to change, nor does it mean that people are going to flock to your forum. I admire your dedication (in your shoes I would quit before creating a whole new forum, so you're certainly more ambitious than I), but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Good luck either way.

Zardeck was dissatisfied with how the boards did tournaments and how the reg did card browsing so he made RC! I don't see you complaining about that.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 12:22:06 PM »
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Zardeck was dissatisfied with how the boards did tournaments and how the reg did card browsing so he made RC! I don't see you complaining about that.

Keep in mind that a lot of the features that Zardeck had imagined for RC never went anywhere, either because he didn't get around to it or because there wasn't any interest. The most popular features that we use from RC are ones that we didn't have before (an easy-to-use card creator and a Hamachi-less free RTS lobby), not features that we already have. That said, I meant it when I wished Red luck with this new project, I'm rooting for it to be a success.

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 01:32:18 PM »
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1. Red is officially going through the cycles of the Raven.
2. Why did you make a new Redemption site with the same features? All it serves to do is potentially kill some of this board and then die itself. What do you hope to gain?
3. Logistically, I doubt your tournament can take place.
4. If everyone thinks the forums are so bad, how come they never get any better? - This is a rhetorical question, because I know the answer.

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 01:42:27 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 03:32:08 PM »
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1. Red is officially going through the cycles of the Raven.
2. Why did you make a new Redemption site with the same features? All it serves to do is potentially kill some of this board and then die itself. What do you hope to gain?
3. Logistically, I doubt your tournament can take place.
4. If everyone thinks the forums are so bad, how come they never get any better? - This is a rhetorical question, because I know the answer.
Because very little meta discussion takes place on this board and no articles are posted thus the players that aren't stay not good unless they live in a area with a high amount of good players. The people's stubborness of not taking new things for what they are good for is ultimately stagnating this game and people need to open their minds.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 05:07:36 PM »
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We have open minds in Florida.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 05:09:10 PM »
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We have open minds in Florida.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 07:57:56 PM »
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1. Red is officially going through the cycles of the Raven.
2. Why did you make a new Redemption site with the same features? All it serves to do is potentially kill some of this board and then die itself. What do you hope to gain?
3. Logistically, I doubt your tournament can take place.
4. If everyone thinks the forums are so bad, how come they never get any better? - This is a rhetorical question, because I know the answer.
Because very little meta discussion takes place on this board and no articles are posted thus the players that aren't stay not good unless they live in a area with a high amount of good players. The people's stubborness of not taking new things for what they are good for is ultimately stagnating this game and people need to open their minds.

What new things are you referring to, exactly?

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 08:57:09 PM »
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1. Red is officially going through the cycles of the Raven.
2. Why did you make a new Redemption site with the same features? All it serves to do is potentially kill some of this board and then die itself. What do you hope to gain?
3. Logistically, I doubt your tournament can take place.
4. If everyone thinks the forums are so bad, how come they never get any better? - This is a rhetorical question, because I know the answer.
Because very little meta discussion takes place on this board and no articles are posted thus the players that aren't stay not good unless they live in a area with a high amount of good players. The people's stubborness of not taking new things for what they are good for is ultimately stagnating this game and people need to open their minds.

What new things are you referring to, exactly?
Any effort I've had at trying to expand this game in some way has been shot down or brushed off as "we already have that". Just because you have doesn't mean you couldn't have a better one.
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Re: ProRedemption Open!
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 09:42:13 PM »
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What is the top cut system?

5. Row row fight the powah
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Also, is this for the tournament at the....tournament (Yo dog), or the boards?

If A what differences will it have from the main event?
If B what differences will it have to this board?


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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 09:44:45 PM »
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Swiss for X rounds. Depending on number of Swiss rounds, top X Swiss players after those rounds proceed to single elimination. The standard system all other CCGs go by.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 09:47:36 PM »
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A is what this is about. And the difference is that this tournament will have niceish prizes and will test a new style of tournament Redemption has never done before.
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 10:06:23 PM »
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A is what this is about. And the difference is that this tournament will have niceish prizes and will test a new style of tournament Redemption has never done before.
I guess, but I hate, hate, hate single elimination. One bad draw and suddenly you get to wait for everyone else to finish while you don't play.
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 10:17:08 PM »
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A is what this is about. And the difference is that this tournament will have niceish prizes and will test a new style of tournament Redemption has never done before.
I guess, but I hate, hate, hate single elimination. One bad draw and suddenly you get to wait for everyone else to finish while you don't play.
Best two of three single elim.
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 10:29:54 PM »
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While I don't agree with the idea that not enough Meta discussions go on through this board (we have entire boards dedicated to that...), I do like the idea for the style of tournament you have described.

I'm hoping to host an elimination tournament myself in Maryland at some point in the near future, by having several rounds of Swiss determining the seeding for a single elimination tournament (obviously wouldn't be big enough to need a top-cut ;)).

I'm also hoping to go to Nationals, but this would be my first time, so my question is: When do things like this (and all the other side/unofficial things) take place?  Would it even be logistically possible, as others have asked?

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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 10:53:06 PM »
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That's what I was saying (to Lambo on IM), it would be logistically impossible to do this tournament (with 1 hour rounds, mind you) even off-hours. And the last thing a Redemption player wants to do after playing 10 rounds of Swiss for the regular Nats tournament is play MORE Redemption. So it would be either this tournament, or the actual Nationals tournament.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2012, 11:29:03 PM »
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That's what I was saying (to Lambo on IM), it would be logistically impossible to do this tournament (with 1 hour rounds, mind you) even off-hours. And the last thing a Redemption player wants to do after playing 10 rounds of Swiss for the regular Nats tournament is play MORE Redemption. So it would be either this tournament, or the actual Nationals tournament.
Maybe I should host this tournament some other time... but the idea remains in my head....(Tournament canceled. Bad idea) But I plan on hosting a simalar tournament some other time.... maybe online....
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2012, 11:42:17 PM »
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Maybe I should host this tournament some other time... but the idea remains in my head....(Tournament canceled. Bad idea) But I plan on hosting a simalar tournament some other time.... maybe online....

I think a lot of people are looking for an opportunity to play different types of tournaments (not because what is played is bad, just because of the different experiences).

Like I said, I'm looking to host an Elimination tournament sometime in July (hopefully) in Maryland.  Online might also be a great place for this type of tournament, like you said.

Main thing is not to be discouraged because you can't get the tournament you want done.  Approach it as an opportunity for a different experience, not a 'better option' than regular tournaments, and I'm sure you'll find a lot of people interested (myself included...unless it's online, I personally hate playing online ;)).

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 07:51:44 PM »
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I think trying a tournament like this is worth it if there are enough players who want to try it, but Nats (or any other big official event) is probably a bad setting logistically. However, getting all the interested players together apart from those events might be even harder.

Of course, if the prizes are REALLY niceish...

(For the record, I wouldn't be interested, because I'm just not a very good player. But I know there are some who really would like a cutthroat format, so if you can do it, go for it.)
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