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I'm not sure about a brand new site, but I think Redemption needs some more publicity. I still think "big" games should be recorded so that others can watch them. One of the coolest things of a game I used to play was the ability to actually watch top players play. Even if you're a top player, you would probably watch other top players and try to sharpen your skills. Text is fine, but videos of real games are tough to beat.

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on February 16, 2011, 06:37:53 PM

I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck.  Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...

Personally, I would be a little bit irritated if someone would rat out my deck for all to see.
    
 your quote above mentioned the revealing of someone's deck, I feel it starts giving people unfair advantages.  

Um, you're going to have to define you're thoughts of "revealing" to me.  I see that my example might have been vague, perhaps.  Most people seem to name their decks, that is what I meant by "x."  I would agree, revealing key components/combinations/cards of tournament-grade decks can be quite damaging.  Hence, why I rarely discuss mine (Although everyone in my playgroup knows what my decks contain by the third game) for publishing.  Drew loves to ask permission to interview me (Get my playing style, strategy, etc...) but I typically decline.  Why?  Well, there's a very good reason, but it's not for the reason mentioned above.

Deck techs must be requested and permission given (i.e. Drew doesn't write about your deck unless YOU reveal the information to him yourself).

Personally, I find it fun that someone might know what's in my deck (By playing me of course) and what may be coming up, but they don't know how it's going to happen.  That's me though.  Helps me think critically because I have to think further in advance on how/when to play certain cards when they are least expected or in a way that can rarely be stopped.  (Kind of like an Illusionist).

Woah, sorry to go off on a sea story there... back to topic.

Your point is very, very valid, but I assure you, unless you specify it, all that may be needed is a name.  Although newer players might enjoy hearing about types of offense/defense in casual, non-tournament grade decks.

It's up to the individual though.

Nice input.  (Wow, I'm commenting more than Drew is... almost like I'm talking FOR him (Which I'm not, am I? >.<) <<- I need to work on that :/

"Loose lips sink ships; but so do icebergs (Not since the Titanic in 1912), bad navigating, and flying bullet-shaped sharks"

-C_S

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 16, 2011, 10:27:57 PM

Is there any possibility you'll show up?  If you do, I will post every tournament I host on the boards calendar.

I don't know.  I don't know when or where they are held.  That's the point.  You know whether all the people you know will attend your tournaments, but what happens when Johnny Noobinstein moves into your neighborhood and wants to know if there are any tournaments in his area?  The event calendar seems like a reasonable place to look, but when he doesn't find any there, he will grow despondent and give up Redemption and turn to a life of drugs and crime.  And kick a dog.

I like this Johnny guy.  I kick puppies though, is that bad?  Poor kid.  You think we can find him and rehabilitate him by sending him to prison?

"You can only go so far, for, the earth is round and eventually you'll wind up back where you started"

-C_S

I don't like someone having an advantage over me.  Especially when I travel to multiple State and Regional tournaments.

I don't have a problem with sharing someones deck once it's been played in an official tournament.  The deck owner gets the advantage of a tournament proven deck, and the rest of the world gets an advantage of having a clue what might be coming.  There are a lot of people who can't travel to "multiple State and Regional tournaments".  Does that give you an unfair advantage?

I figure it all balances out.  Some people can go to more tournaments, which is an advantage (although not an unfair one considering everyone is allowed to).  But those people are also more likely to get their decks exposed, which is a disadvantage (although not an unfair one because official tournaments are public).

Well, it's different in SoulSeeker's case.  I think it's safe to say that either he or I will win in this upcoming tournament.  If either of our decks gets out, the other could tweak theirs slightly to preform better against the other's, which is an unfair advantage.

Say, I find out that he's playing Prophets, a Naz splash isn't too hard.  Or if he finds out I'm doing NT Female, all he has to do is add the "You're a Computer Science major" card, and they'll all leave.

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on February 16, 2011, 06:37:53 PM

I.e. such and such achieved a victory over such and such with "x" deck.  Both players have had a bit of a rivalry for the past "x" months...

Personally, I would be a little bit irritated if someone would rat out my deck for all to see.
    For example, let's say by some hypothetical chance that I win SomeKitten's March tournament.  SomeKittens has already mentioned that they are on board with this idea.  I would be irritated if my deck (tested at a district to see its possibility for winning at States) was broadcasted prior to States happening.  Somekittens could easily do it too without my knowledge (not saying he would..I'm talking about the possibilities).

I know that the above has already been discussed, and I'm not trying to rehash that discussion. However, your quote above mentioned the revealing of someone's deck, I feel it starts giving people unfair advantages.  I don't like someone having an advantage over me.  Especially when I travel to multiple State and Regional tournaments.

Here’s the beauty of it my friend. I’ve designed the site where members only can make posts (that means someone would have to register). So it’s up to the person to post what they want to post. I don’t go around trying to sneak people’s deck out to the public. Ask all of my fellow playgroup members, I ALWAYS ask them before I do anything with it. I ask for their permission. Here is an example. Last year at the FL States in 2010 I personally interviewed Joshua Kopp from Orlando, FL. He is not even in our playgroup although he still lives in the same State. I also asked him if he was open to me posting his deck list online in our webzine because it’s meant to cover FL State tournaments. He agreed to all of it. Here’s the thing, a week later is when he emailed me the deck list to put into the webzine. You’re all welcome to view the webzine issue to view it. However with this, we’re just applying that to this site.

Don’t misunderstand the intentions with this. The whole point of this site isn’t to give you a bad name, it’s to edify the Body of Christ. That’s just about all the Believers that play the game. It’s meant to brag on God and His goodness on how He’s helped you, me, your friends play, win, and so on. If you’re worried because someone get’s a look at your deck, you’re looking at it all wrong. The site sharing something like that is supposed to saying ‘hey, look at our beloved brother here who won so and such tournament. This is what he/she did, this is what he used.” and Praise God for it!

Plus, it’s mean to leave a legacy and example for the future generations of players. Some of us aren’t exactly the best age to continue playing for ages to come, especially those that have families. Sharing your winning moments and the gifts & talents God blessed you with for His Glory was meant as a token to uplift, edify, and encourage others to follow those leaders in their foot steps. If we’re selfish and focusing on ourselves you’re missing the whole point.

If you don’t want to share - then don’t. I’m looking for those that want to make a difference, an impact, to do the right thing, for the right reason. I believe this is one of those right things to do, not for ourselves, for the people out there. Uncounted Believers and unsaved people may and very well could be impacted by this. No one knows how much one simple message or testimony could lead someone to their salvation and if it’s something as curial as that then it should be for that very reason to make that available because we’re putting on a servant’s heart and serving our Lord Jesus Christ and serving our brothers in the Lord in doing so.

Well, it's different in SoulSeeker's case.  I think it's safe to say that either he or I will win in this upcoming tournament.  If either of our decks gets out, the other could tweak theirs slightly to preform better against the other's, which is an unfair advantage.

Say, I find out that he's playing Prophets, a Naz splash isn't too hard.  Or if he finds out I'm doing NT Female, all he has to do is add the "You're a Computer Science major" card, and they'll all leave.

Oh yeah, Drew DEFINITELY does not do that!  We're talking after-tourney decks that new players can look at that are tournament-grade, but not being actively used.  But it's all volunteer.  If you aren't the owner of the deck, Drew's not going to post it (Unless it's one that can no longer be played due to errata etc...).

"Legends live on only if someone continues to tell the story"

-C_S