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[uthminister [BR]]

We are excited to have the opportunity to host the
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2016 National Redemption Tournament
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at the Crosspointe Church of Christ on August 4th through 6th.

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Sponsor: Three Lions Gaming
Host: Travis Brown, uthminister@hotmail.com
Address: 5630 St. Rt. 122, Franklin, OH  45005

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Open Deck categories (Type-1, Type-2, Teams, Type-A): $10 each
Closed Deck* categories (Sealed and Booster): $20 each
You pay full price for 1 category and half price for your other 2 categories that are equal or lower priced.
(ex/ Sealed Deck is $20 so then Type-1 2-Player is half price at $5 for a total of $25 for both events)
*You keep all cards in the Closed Deck categories.
 
The schedule is as follows (20 minutes between all rounds):

Thursday //  Doors open at 8A.M. and play starts at 9A.M.
                    >>Type-2 Multiplayer
                    >>Booster Draft (Including all 5 box packs, Priest, and Kings)
                    We will try to be done by 6P.M. including the lunch break.
 
     Friday //  Doors open at 8A.M. and play starts at 9A.M.
                    >>Type-1 2-Player
                    >>Type-2 2-Player
                    >>Type-A** 2-Player
                    We will try to be done by 8P.M. including the lunch break.
                    ** To play you must be 12 or younger and have no RNRS points.
 
Saturday //  Doors open at 8A.M. and play starts at 9A.M.
                    >>Type-1 Multiplayer
                    >>Sealed Deck
                    >>Teams
                    We will try to be done by 4P.M. including the lunch break.
 
                    At the conclusion of the weekend's events, we will have an Awards Presentation.
 
                    Rounds played per category will be determined by the number of players registered in each category.

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http://www.threelionsgaming.com/#!pre-registration/c12yb

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There will meals available at the church for breakfast and lunch each day.  For only $15 at the door you will get tickets to enjoy the following:

Breakfast Thursday: Pancakes & Sausage on a Stick w/ Syrup + Water OR Juice
Lunch Thursday: Chick-Fil-A Sandwich + Chips + Water OR Soft Drink
Breakfast Friday: Sausage, Egg & Cheese Biscuit + Water OR Juice
Lunch Friday: Combs Bar-B-Que Pulled Pork Sandwich + Chips + Water OR Soft Drink
Breakfast Saturday: Milton's Donuts (local favorite) + Water OR Juice
Lunch Saturday: Marco's Pizza (2 Slices) + Cookie + Water OR Soft Drink

All Breakfast items may be substituted by a Pop Tart 2 Pack, a Kashi Granola Bar, an Apple, or a Banana as available.

You will be on your own for dinner unless there are leftovers at the church from lunch, in which case, that will be available ($5 per person for one of the lunch combos listed above including an entree, a side, and a drink; depending on availability).

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[Xonathan]

What sets are we going to do the booster draft with?

[Josh]

What sets are we going to do the booster draft with?

Great question.  Also, the order of the sets is important too.  I vote that TEC is always the first pack drafted   

My ideal draft:

TEC
TexP
Disciples
CoW
PC
...and maybe another pack or two, but that is already 75 cards.  Priests or Womens would be fun. 

This rotates between (mostly) NT and OT packs, and does TEC first, which I like because of all the FooF/RoA cards.

[Gabe]

We could top the most epic booster draft ever from Nationals 2015 by drafting every set + CoW.

[Xonathan]

So down...

[Crashfach2002]

We could top the most epic booster draft ever from Nationals 2015 by drafting every set + CoW.

That would be awesome!  I loved that we did that but was slightly disappointed that I couldn't draft too, but I'm just excited to draft the 5 boxes at our State and Regionals this year!

[uthminister [BR]]

I could see us doing something like what has been suggested already. Not sure we will do all packs but pretty close to it.    If we were to do all sets hypothetically, what would be a reasonable price for booster (we clearly can't do $15 since that wouldn't even work at cost)?

[wyatt_marcum]

man, this just makes me want to go more...

[Red]

man, this just makes me want to go more...

Homeskillet, if you can get the money, we can drive you. JS. Lodging is free, eats are cheap, just pay your tournament and we got you. We want you to come. We being team metabus.

[wyatt_marcum]

if I get the $$ I'l definitely go.

[Josh]

We could top the most epic booster draft ever from Nationals 2015 by drafting every set + CoW.

How many cards would this end up being?  My opinion is, if too many cards are drafted, it makes it too easy to assemble a fantastic booster deck. 

[uthminister [BR]]

We could top the most epic booster draft ever from Nationals 2015 by drafting every set + CoW.

How many cards would this end up being?  My opinion is, if too many cards are drafted, it makes it too easy to assemble a fantastic booster deck. 

159 I believe...

[Josh]

159 I believe...

Personally, I don't like drafting Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, or Angel Wars.  Too much junk.  I love boxes, but all 5 already gets you up to 75 cards.  Priests, Kings, Patriarchs, and Womens are nice, but Womens packs have a 1/10 chance of landing a Falling Away. 

I think that 5 boxes, plus Priests/Kings/Patriarchs, would be plenty to have an epic booster...  Maybe 2015 was more epic, and I admit it's more fun the more cards you get to Boost with.  But if this truly going to be the National championship of Booster, it might be best to keep the number of cards drafted around 100 or so, to give a better chance of players' booster skillz shining.

Just some food for thought.  This would also save a bit of money and time as well.

[The Guardian]

Although I disagree on Apostles not being worth drafting, I agree with jmhartz about the number of cards. 105 cards will give you the chance to build a really solid deck. 

[Josh]

Although I disagree on Apostles not being worth drafting, I agree with jmhartz about the number of cards. 105 cards will give you the chance to build a really solid deck. 

Is 105 how many cards 5 boxes + Patriarchs/Kings/Priests would be?  I can never remember how many cards are in those packs...

[browarod]

Pretty sure all foil packs have 10 cards except for the first 2.

[Crashfach2002]

Pretty sure all foil packs have 10 cards except for the first 2.

Women's only have 8 as well.

[Xonathan]

More cards = more awesome
I did a super draft with every single redemption box/pack ( including warriors packs from three lions) not too long ago and it was very fun. All of the cards actually made it harder to decide what you wanted to throw in and what to leave out and required a lot of deck building skill to build something cool out of all those cards. Plus you get to keep all of those cards!!!

[_JM_]

2015 Nats booster was way too many cards.  The older packs simply don't add enough value for the time you need to take drafting them.  Drafting + deck building felt like it took as much time as two rounds of play.  Even boxes + Kings/Priests/Patriarchs doesn't necessarily seem like the best experience.  I'm definitely in the 'just the boxes' crowd for draft this year, though I'd be ok with a limited number of the foil packs.  Just please not everything!

I'd also like to see us doing the TLG booster rules/structure, though that may be too much to hope for 

[uthminister [BR]]

If we do all packs including out of print packs (not doubling up on Limited and Unlimited but only using Unlimited) it would put us at about $40 a person for draft. If we trimmed back to something like what JMhartz suggested we would be looking at more like $25 a person. Just wanted to put it into perspective. I don't want to make Booster draft something unattainable for those that cannot be there. What I was originally going to offer with booster draft this year for the $15 was Unlimited, Prophets, Apostles, Patriarchs, Kings, Priests, Angel Wars, Disciples, and Cloud of Witnesses (96 cards if I am correct). I could take out the foil packs altogether and just do Disciples, Thesaurus, Early Church Persecuted Church, and Cloud of Witnsses (75 cards) for about the same cost as well. Thoughts?

[Xonathan]

Disciples, TxP, EC, PC, and CoW sounds perfect to me. I forgot how expensive adding too many packs could be and I want everyone to be able to play more than having extra cards.

[Red]

Can we add priests so that the teal and orange cards in the boxes aren't alone? Also it is a way to add characters. The early boxes had terrible character distributions.

[Josh]

Can we add priests so that the teal and orange cards in the boxes aren't alone? Also it is a way to add characters. The early boxes had terrible character distributions.

This is a big reason I like Priests and Kings added to box drafts - lots of characters.  We don't need Patriarchs, which I think is a little low on characters anyways. 

My vote (subject to change) is currently for one of the following:

5 boxes + Priests
5 boxes + Priests + Kings

Travis, you said 5 boxes by themselves would be around $15...  Would adding Priests and/or Kings be doable for $20?

[uthminister [BR]]

This is a big reason I like Priests and Kings added to box drafts - lots of characters.  We don't need Patriarchs, which I think is a little low on characters anyways. 

My vote (subject to change) is currently for one of the following:

5 boxes + Priests
5 boxes + Priests + Kings

Travis, you said 5 boxes by themselves would be around $15...  Would adding Priests and/or Kings be doable for $20?

Yes. If we added those, we could do $20 for draft. If we are going to make this change, I will need to get a good amount of support from here and then I will need to update the tournament page to make the price change to draft.

[Xonathan]

I'm for the 5 boxes plus kings and priests