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Re: Official Nationals Top Cut Rules - please provide input
« Reply #150 on: May 23, 2013, 08:38:42 PM »
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Hey,

How does everyone feel about only being able to use one deck during the top cut portion of the tournament?

I think the options regarding multiple decks should be as similar to the options in non-top cut tournaments as possible.  I think a player should not be able to use separate decks for the swiss portion of the tournament and the top cut portion of the tournament.

So I'd like to see the rule that a player can use any deck in the top cut that they used for at least three rounds during the swiss portion.  Although I'm not sure how "choose your deck before you know your opponent" works with a bracketed tournament.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

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Re: Official Nationals Top Cut Rules - please provide input
« Reply #151 on: May 23, 2013, 08:55:11 PM »
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Hey,

How does everyone feel about only being able to use one deck during the top cut portion of the tournament?

I think the options regarding multiple decks should be as similar to the options in non-top cut tournaments as possible.  I think a player should not be able to use separate decks for the swiss portion of the tournament and the top cut portion of the tournament.

So I'd like to see the rule that a player can use any deck in the top cut that they used for at least three rounds during the swiss portion.  Although I'm not sure how "choose your deck before you know your opponent" works with a bracketed tournament.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

That what I'm trying to combat. If you win, you know who (or who of 2) you will play, so it seemed better to allow only one deck. I could maybe see an injunction allowing deck changes if a deck became illegal due to a plot rip.

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Re: Official Nationals Top Cut Rules - please provide input
« Reply #152 on: May 23, 2013, 09:12:32 PM »
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Thoughts:

Adding in a bye round does nothing to actually combat bad draws, it just gives one fewer game in which you can have a bad draw. Reducing the odds this way is not a solution. the only thing that can actually, fairly, reduce the bad draw luck factor is best 2/3. Unfortunately we don't have time for that, so if you get a bad draw in top cut then I'm sorry for your loss but it happens.

Top 16 is reasonable if you have time and 16 represents a MAXIMUM of 25% of the field, meaning a minimum of 64 players must show up to nats. any less than that and it should be reduced back to top 8. 16 is too many if only 40 people show up.

Allowing players to carry multiple decks in to the next round only works if you keep all of the top cut players segregated from each other and keep game results 100% confidential until players have picked a new deck. This would require game tables to be separated by a fair margin, players forced to remain seated until all games have been played and then choosing their next deck before they stand up again. It's easier just to make them choose 1 deck to carry for top cut.


Actually know that still doesn't work, when you get to the later rounds it would be pretty easy to tell who you're about to play. Especially when it gets to final four, you have a 50-50 chance of guessing who you're gonna play next. just make them lock in a deck.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2013, 09:20:52 PM by lp670sv »

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Re: Official Nationals Top Cut Rules - please provide input
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2013, 10:49:42 AM »
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I posted the confirmed rules in a sticky.

 


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