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Hey,I ran some numbers. If you did a top 8 cut three rounds before the end of each national tournament since 2002 the winner would make the cut every time. Ten of those eleven years the winner would have made a top 4 cut (the one exception being Gabe's 2007 win.) 30 of the 35 people who placed over those 11 years would have made a top 8 cut. Only one player in the last five years that placed would have missed a top 8 cut and that was one of the three players that tied for 3rd in 09.Tschow,Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
I forget, is there a reason we would do double elim instead of single elim for top cut?
or by cutting one swiss round (6 should be enough to settle a single undefeated based on recent attendance).For reference,Double elim is 6 (or 7) rounds with a top 8Single would be 3Double elimination would give the "winner" if it were single elimination a 2 round bye.
Yeah, I figured as much Roy. That's why I support single elimination
Quote from: Alex_Olijar on April 30, 2013, 08:33:00 PMYeah, I figured as much Roy. That's why I support single elimination with a best of three final?
Please kindly bear in mind that we are not planning to extend the traditional planned timing for the T1 2P event. If you guys can assure me that all the rounds will be done by 8pm, then you are in good shape with your plans for at least 12 rounds. Else, you have no choice but to design the method where the day ends at 8pm max. The reasons are obvious.Carry on. May the Spirit guide one and all who are heroically involved in this plan.
No supper break?
Quote from: ReyZen on April 30, 2013, 08:04:44 PMPlease kindly bear in mind that we are not planning to extend the traditional planned timing for the T1 2P event. If you guys can assure me that all the rounds will be done by 8pm, then you are in good shape with your plans for at least 12 rounds. Else, you have no choice but to design the method where the day ends at 8pm max. The reasons are obvious.Carry on. May the Spirit guide one and all who are heroically involved in this plan.In that case, I think double elimination is eliminated as an option. It might be possible to squeeze in an extra round or two within the scheduled time (due to less in between time for the last few rounds), but three would be quite a stretch. Single elim with a best of three final would probably be possible. I would envision a schedule something like this:Rd 1: 9-945 AMRd 2: 10-1045 AMRd 3: 11-1145 AMBreak: 1145 AM-1245 PMRd 4: 1245-130 PMRd 5: 145-230 PMRd 6: 245-330 PMRd 7: 345-430 PMQF: 440-525 PMSF: 530-615 PMFR1: 620-705 PMFR2: 710-755 PMFR3: 800-845 PMThat way, if the final round only goes to 2 rounds, it is done for sure by 8. It is likely that if it goes to three rounds, the first two rounds won't have taken the full 45 minutes, so it's probable that the tournament would really end by 815-830, or sooner. I just don't see anyway there could be time for a sixth round, but it's bound to happen that it would be needed if we go the double elim route.
One thought I had is that the rest of the field could play for third place and those who made top cut would just play for first and second. That way the others would have something to play for. The only issue with that is that there would be players who performed better than third place but did not place,not sure if that's a big deal though because top cut is a pretty high honor in and of itself.