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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2010, 08:49:30 PM »
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None of these answer my questions.

1. Can a host (who is the official judge) play in an official local or district tournament category when there is no other judge present?

2. Can a host (who is the official judge) play in an official local or district tournament category where the only other judge is playing in the same category?

If yes, does that host/judge still get RNRS points and Cactus prizes?

I dont know about the official stance but if I were to guess, the answers would probably be

1. no
2. no

However, if I have a local and we are only running one category, I ask the people in the category if it is ok that I play.  Since I am checking in all the decks, if they let me play, I always let everyone look at my deck(s).  I hardly ever remember what people are playing even after I look at their decks so in reality I am really
giving them a huge advantage but I figure that it is only fair since they let me play.  

If they say no, then I simply sit out that category.

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2010, 09:17:19 PM »
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Hmmm.... the rules say that there has to be a non-playing judge. Are we just tossing that rule because we trust each other? Does Rob give his stamp of approval on this policy? I would certainly love to play in my own tournaments.
Officially the Tournament Guide States that the judge/host is permitted to play in a category he is not judging provided it does not interfer with his duties judging the other categories.  That said, I don't enforce this on local play groups if the players want their host to play with them and believe that the host/judge will rule fairly for everyone. 

Last year I hosted the NC State Tournament here in Hayesville.  Clift Crysel, Eric Largent, Tyler Stevens, the Kamke family and a few others joined the Andersons for the tournament.  I was planning to judge and not play.  Those who traveled here asked that I play too.  I joined in and we had a great time.  I can't recall any problems.  I can't see it making sense in a big multi-category event.  There is just too much to do as host.  But, for events of 20 players or less, it's okay with me if it's okay with the players there.
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2010, 09:26:15 PM »
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Thanks Rob. That is good to know. Your commitment to Fun & Fellowship is always appreciated.  ;D
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2010, 09:33:07 PM »
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I can't see it making sense in a big multi-category event.  There is just too much to do as host.

I hosted MW regionals for the first time this year and While there were times I had a non playing judge secured for rulings, during a few rounds I often had people in other categories make rulings for the category I was playing in and vice versa.  I think the key for a large event is to have several people who are capable of scoring rounds (I use the score cards) and make sure those scores are logged as soon as people are done playing.

I will admit this event was the most stressful for me and on a few occasions I had to raise my voice above the crowd to get peoples attention so that we could proceed on time.  But it is not impossible if you have several trusted and informed hosts.  My regional was blessed with Many such people from Jonathan Greeson, Mark Underwood, Gabe Isbell, Travis Brown, Rob Mulye, Alex Olijar and Ron Sias, all of which have hosted before and were very helpful in securing the information if I was unavailable due to still being involved in a match.

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2010, 10:43:13 PM »
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Hey,

Now when I send in for tournies, I list myself and my wife as the host. One because we both can judge and make rulings and two because we open our home to people and act as there host by providing food etc.

If neither of us play then I would have waste the money that I spend on the tournament fees

If you consider it a "waste of money" to host a tournament that you cannot play in then perhaps you shouldn't be hosting a tournament to begin with.

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2010, 10:52:02 PM »
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I think was Rob is saying is that hosting a tournament that you arent playing in can get boring. I know I enjoy hosting tournaments even when I dont play in them, but I like it even better when I get to play.
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2010, 10:54:05 PM »
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I think was Rob is saying is that hosting a tournament that you arent playing in can get boring. I know I enjoy hosting tournaments even when I dont play in them, but I like it even better when I get to play.

And I think Tim was saying that you shouldn't host if you want to play because hosting is about providing the fun and fellowship for others, not about allowing yourself the oppurtunity to get more RNRS points.

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2010, 10:58:57 PM »
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True, and I agree with that.  There have been tournaments I have hosted that I have not played in.  I am just saying it is better when you can.
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2010, 11:24:38 PM »
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One of my favorite things to do when hosting is to glance at everyone's games.

Of course, now that I can play, I'll probably have a T2 game with myself and one other person who would like to play (that's if I have my second deck done(it would be really unfar to my group to play T1 with them))

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2010, 11:34:46 PM »
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Obviously this is all discretionary.  I would not necessarily play against my newer players, but it is nice to know I have the option, especially when more experienced players can make it to my tournaments. For instance, since I moved to Florida, I have had visits from Captain Kirk (and his family), Professor Underwood, and BubbleBoy. I am glad that I can put aside any reservations I may have previously had and enjoy playing against these fine gentlemen, rather than just watch them play everyone else.
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2010, 11:49:20 PM »
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Make your reservations early.... first come, first served, and my own family visits take precedence.
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2010, 05:56:27 PM »
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Hey,

Now when I send in for tournies, I list myself and my wife as the host. One because we both can judge and make rulings and two because we open our home to people and act as there host by providing food etc.

If neither of us play then I would have waste the money that I spend on the tournament fees

If you consider it a "waste of money" to host a tournament that you cannot play in then perhaps you shouldn't be hosting a tournament to begin with.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Tim I think you misunderstood me.

I was saying it would be a waste of money because you need three people to play an event, so you can hand out all prizes.  I have not had three people come to any of my tournaments, if you don't include either my wife or myself.  For example Soul Seeker came last weekend and was our only other player for one of the days. If we could not play then He would have wasted a trip.

One must also take in account the money that I lose on a tournament. One of us needs to play to even win back some of what we payed into hosting.  With opening packs at my last local I think I either broke even or lost a few buck.  But It was a lot of fun to get to play SS eventhough he beat us both!

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2010, 10:34:40 PM »
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I have not had three people come to any of my tournaments, if you don't include either my wife or myself.
I remember bringing a couple guys with me to a tourney at you house in Lexington, and your place in Nicholasville.  I also remember there being a lot of people at KY State last year :)

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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2010, 12:11:56 PM »
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(probably before the purge)

what is this? I've heard a few people talk about it before
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2010, 12:20:58 PM »
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A bunch of old topics/posts where deleted to make room for new stuff.


Although certain places don't need a purge considering the posts on the first page could be from months ago (we're looking at you t2 deck advice!)
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Re: What's Your Average
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2010, 04:43:36 PM »
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I have not had three people come to any of my tournaments, if you don't include either my wife or myself.
I remember bringing a couple guys with me to a tourney at you house in Lexington, and your place in Nicholasville.  I also remember there being a lot of people at KY State last year :)

Prof is correct, I should have specified, since in New York I havent had more than two other people.

 


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