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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Playgroup and Tournament Central => Redemption® Official Tournaments => Topic started by: Professoralstad on March 29, 2010, 12:47:36 PM
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NEW this Year we will celebrate the 15th anniversary in style by allowing players the chance to...
CREATE your own REDEMPTION HERO
that is street legal and tournament ready!! That’s right… YOU can become a REDEMPTION NEW TESTAMENT HERO fighting alongside your other favorite heroes to rescue lost souls and win the day!!!
Whoa. So, how exactly does this work? Because it sounds awesome, but I can imagine that it will have to be regulated fairly strictly. Also, does it mean that I make myself into a Hero (i.e. a hero named Jordan Alstad) or that I design a new Biblical Hero? Either way, I really hope I can make it to Nats.
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To answer just a few questions before players panic:
1) There are 6 "templates" to choose from. All are N.T. human heroes.
2) You pick the template for your hero. The red template is a warrior class hero with a "Christian Soldier" reference. The gold template is a Luke hero. The green template is a prophet. The blue and purple templates are deacons. The white template is a musician. There are no teal or silver hero options.
3) You pick the strength you want (4, 5, or 6)
4) You pick the toughness you want (4, 5, or 6)
5) You select one of 4 special ability options for each template.
One of the special ability options (a choice for every template) is "This hero has access to all sites."
A second option is "May band to ___ or ___." The blanks are filled based on the template you chose. For red, gold, and blue, the first blank is Soldier of God. For green, purple, and white, the first blank is Faithful Servant. The other blank is red-Christian Soldier, gold-Good Samaritan, green-Paladin (green), blue- Seeker of the Lost, purple- Saint of Virtue, and white-Saint of Virtue (purple and white go rather well together, and this is a good option for kids with a deck H).
The other two special ability options are more specifically designed to be helpful in the brigade.
6) The title of the card is your first and last name
7) the art on the card is a picture of you.
8 ) you are the only player allowed to use your card in a deck.
9) you will only be allowed ONE such custom card per deck, regardless of type of play
10) promised to be tournament legal for the 2010-2011 season only. Beyond that, tournament legality will be decided on a year-by-year basis by Rob.
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In what categories will the custom cards be allowed?
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thanks for rubbing it in that i can't go. :'( :'( :'(
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Wish I could go :'(
Actually, I might be able to go. I have family in MA and we've been wanting to visit them. Its just unlikely :c
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Ok Bryon, I now have a TON of questions. Whta categories are they allowed in, where are these templates, and I am assuming by your last category that I can have 5 of them in type 2? so I am assuming type 2 is a legitimate category for use....
Can I have multiple cards in different brigades but only use one type in each deck ..( ie a green one in a prophets deck and a gold one in an abom deck?)
Can we be evil characters? after all...we were all once separated from the love of god.....
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Another important question: Can I be OT if I'm secretly a time traveler?
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Another important question: Can I be OT if I'm secretly a time traveler?
or just really really really really old?
Can we be evil characters? after all...we were all once separated from the love of god.....
What about a Saul/Paul like card? That would be really cool.
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If I know someone who's going can they pick-up my card for me? I'm not exactly thrilled that its so inclusive, even national promo's are fairly easy to obtain if you want them.
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I'm not exactly thrilled that its so inclusive.
And by that, you mean exclusive?
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This is really cool. Is this in addition to the regular Nats promos?
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How awesome...I can't wait to see how this works out!
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so wait this is just for people going to nats and this is waht there doing for the 15th anniversary?
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How awesome...I can't wait to see how this works out!
I know. Based on the FAQ page on the website, this card becomes an official card to use in any deck. I can see sooooo many wonderful possibilities. I might drop a small fortune on these cards!
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Well, Rrulez made the name badge below that I used at Nats 09. Looks like I'll have to make some updates to it. Not sure on the numbers or SA since I haven't seen the templates yet, but I will be a green prophet. I like the current scripture, Mark 1:17, but will probably go with the other picture below.
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash1%2Fhs463.ash1%2F25445_1306938837857_1362148920_30882548_2493134_s.jpg&hash=fa431a2cd099664d5104862e05b0bbb057e1c149)
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I wish I could go soooo bad. :'(
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you don't know how ticked i am at not going.
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Can we be evil characters? after all...we were all once separated from the love of god.....
Bryon told us Saturday that participants cannot choose to be an evil character. Sigh.
Also, I'm assuming each player will only get one, and since you can only have a card with your name on it in your deck, there's no way to have 5 in T2 or two cards in different decks.
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Does it have to be my picture? I hate how I look, can we choose any artwork? Is this only on the first day, or will it run all 3 days?
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Can I use my Nats Hero and Adonijah in the same deck? Are they considered the same unique character?
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Does it have to be my picture? I hate how I look, can we choose any artwork? Is this only on the first day, or will it run all 3 days?
i second this...not because i hate how i look, but i play other ccg's that have allowed players to become cards, and they're not all that aesthetically great...plus, custom artwork would be kick-butt *cough cough eternal studios cough cough*.
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Can I use my Nats Hero and Adonijah in the same deck? Are they considered the same unique character?
Unfortunately no, you also can't play Throne of David down if either is in play
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2) You pick the template for your hero. The red template is a warrior class hero with a "Christian Soldier" reference. The gold template is a Luke hero. The green template is a prophet. The blue and purple templates are deacons. The white template is a musician. The teal template is a priest.
hmm which would I be? 4/4 for sure
Looking forward to what the sa's are.
then again I probably won't drop the money on it, bette off with my wife making a card for her deck.
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Can I use my Nats Hero and Adonijah in the same deck? Are they considered the same unique character?
One, one laugh! Ahh ahh ah!!
=]
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I have made some edits to my first post in this thread.
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The blue and purple templates are deacons.
Hm, I really hope this means there will be deacons in the next set.
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so now i really got to go to nats this year.
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Question: Would we be able (if we are unavailable to go) send someone in our stead?
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i doubt it it says must pick up in person. But if we can ill pay some one to pick mine and my wifes up.
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Hm, darn. I haven't viewed the site cuz I didn't think of going but... My lil brother always wanted a card of himself...
Question: Will Red(or any of them) be WC?
Another Question: Will we need to bring a pic OR will it be taken there. I need to know how to dress, yo!
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will the cards be ROOT legal?
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will the cards be ROOT legal?
Lol, now that's a good question.
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will the cards be ROOT legal?
Great question. If they're added to the REG I can add them all to RTS. If they're available in RTS then they're ROOT legal. :)
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I have made some edits to my first post in this thread.
Darn, no female priest.
But, female musician is pretty sweet....
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I'm more likely to pose for a picture for my card than I was for my senior picture.
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I'm more likely to pose for a picture for my card than I was for my senior picture.
I'll second that.
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can we wear costume's for the card? even if they can't tell that it's your picture? (i.e. a Darth Vader mask...)
if we change our name, can we still use our card?
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The red template is a warrior class hero with a "Christian Soldier" reference.
We're going to have have red, warrior class, NT females? I hope someone named Xena shows up to buy one.
You select one of 4 special ability options for each template.
One of the special ability options (a choice for every template) is "This hero has access to all sites."
A second option is "May band to ___ or ___." The blanks are filled based on the template you chose.
Maybe the two brigade specific abilities will be a little more exciting. Can you give us an idea when we get to know those? If they're at a simliar power level to the first two, I beg you to let us choose 2 abilities per Hero or add "cannot be negated" to the one ability we get.
Maybe another solution to "up" the power level and make these more playable is to combine two brigades for each Hero. That would make it more logical that we can only have one per deck. It will help them mesh with the Seeker, Soldier, FSP theme they're promoting. The blue & purple are already begging to be combined.
Presently we're talking about a 4/4-6/6 single color character with one ability that is on the low side of average. What I know of the current offer is exciting as a collector but not from a deck building/game play standpoint.
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Can you give us an idea when we get to know those?
John will post one template per week with the special ability options, beginning sometime soon.
Presently we're talking about a 4/4-6/6 single color character with one ability that is on the low side of average. What I know of the current offer is exciting as a collector but not from a deck building/game play standpoint.
... and that is the point, really. We don't want people who come to nationals to have a major advantage over those who can't make it there. A 4/4 N.T. hero with a minorly helpful ability is nice, or a 6/6 N.T. banding hero might be nice, but none of these are going to be strong enough to really make or break a deck. They are a fun little addition - especially for kids. But I doubt we will see very many in the top 10 decks at nationals next year.
That said, Kurt and I know what we are getting for our cards, and they are not the access or banding abilities. :)
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We don't want people who come to nationals to have a major advantage over those who can't make it there.
Don't people that come to nationals already have an advantage over people that can't make it, since they aren't there? ;) :D
Just kidding...I know what you mean, but I couldn't help myself.
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While not OP, my 4/5* NT green prophet hero will be an upgrade to Agabus in my T2 decks, so I am happy. If the other SA gives me a little extra then that's great. That is, IF I can make it to Nats. :D I know I have plenty of incentive now.
(* I'm still contemplating 4/5 or 4/6. At 4/5 I need a couple of Chemosh hits, whereas with 4/6 I just need to be Wounded...I can't decide right now. guess I'll have to play some RTS practice games with someone to see how they work.)
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I don't know. Christians of certain denominations might have a fit if some of us are considered prophets. ;)
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Random: I assume these will use our full names?
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I don't know. Christians of certain denominations might have a fit if some of us are considered prophets. ;)
Well I'm certain some of my family members would balk at me being a musician. :laugh:
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I don't know. Christians of certain denominations might have a fit if some of us are considered prophets. ;)
Unfortunately, with the absence of Teal...green prophet is the closest thing that describes my calling/job/spiritual gift.
Also, I agree with Gabe. I think if we choose just one SA that we should have CBN as an option for not choosing 2 SAs.
Finally, either number that I wanted for my abilities were not offered which is kind of a bummer. 1/1 for strategy purposes or 7/7 for collective purposes (my favorite number which also represents completeness-->because I'm complete in Christ). I can't even add 2 of the numbers (like 3/4) to make it to 7. That is the biggest bummer for me overall. :'(
However, I didn't want to end on a sour note. I think this is a GREAT idea, and I will make 1 for sure and maybe 2 or 3. I would love seeing my mug in all my decks. :D
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Bryon, you sure we can't expand the strength and toughness range to 7? We have a 7/7 deacon so its not without precedent.
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Bryon, you sure we can't expand the strength and toughness range to 7? We have a 7/7 deacon so its not without precedent.
+1 At least one of the two numbers (strength or defense)?
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Hey,
The green template is a prophet.
Wait...so I'm a prophet? When did I prophecy about anything?
you are the only player allowed to use your card in a deck.
This makes me sad. Playing with a Tim Maly card seems weird. But trading my Tim Maly card for a John Earley card, or a Justin Alstad card, or a Bill Voigt card and playing with that would be awesome.
The title of the card is your first and last name
I guess it's time for a trip to the courthouse to officially change my name to "Sir Nobody."
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
i totally agree. maybe they'll allow us to do something like...
'John Nesfeder (Master KChief)'
or vice versa.
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Hey,
you are the only player allowed to use your card in a deck.
This makes me sad. Playing with a Tim Maly card seems weird. But trading my Tim Maly card for a John Earley card, or a Justin Alstad card, or a Bill Voigt card and playing with that would be awesome.
You will be able to trade in the 2011-2012 season.
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
i totally agree. maybe they'll allow us to do something like...
'John Nesfeder (Master KChief)'
or vice versa.
Or maybe they can put your board name in the spot that they usually put the artist name (since the artwork will be made by you...somewhat :P)
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
i totally agree. maybe they'll allow us to do something like...
'John Nesfeder (Master KChief)'
or vice versa.
I hope so, that makes it even cooler.
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
i totally agree. maybe they'll allow us to do something like...
'John Nesfeder (Master KChief)'
or vice versa.
I hope so, that makes it even cooler.
I agree. I really like that idea a lot.
As for the 7/7 option, we agreed that would be too strong with the banding option. Maybe if you choose NOT to get the banding option, you could get a 7/7?
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The title of the card is your first and last name
So...we can't use our board names? I think that would be really cool, and it would also be a fun way to figure out who real-life people are on the boards.
i totally agree. maybe they'll allow us to do something like...
'John Nesfeder (Master KChief)'
or vice versa.
I hope so, that makes it even cooler.
I agree. I really like that idea a lot.
As for the 7/7 option, we agreed that would be too strong with the banding option. Maybe if you choose NOT to get the banding option, you could get a 7/7?
+1 with that..I would sacrifice banding to get my favorite number and the special meaning it holds to me. I was planning on not getting the banding option anyway. So I REALLY like that idea the more I think about it.
Also, I like board names being the "middle name" in the style of...
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly and
Eric "puts something here" Largent
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As for the 7/7 option, we agreed that would be too strong with the banding option. Maybe if you choose NOT to get the banding option, you could get a 7/7?
+1 with that..I would sacrifice banding to get my favorite number and the special meaning it holds to me. I was planning on not getting the banding option anyway. So I REALLY like that idea the more I think about it.
Also, I like board names being the "middle name" in the style of...
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly and
Eric "puts something here" Largent
Hmmm...so if I use a childhood nickname of mine instead of my first name I could be:
Bam Bam STAMP Stamp
:laugh:
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
wyn.
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
LOL
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
you forgot son of jacob!
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
you forgot son of jacob!
blue is for noobs.
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SCOTT! GET IN HERE! ANDREW IS BEING MEAN AGAIN.
On a related note: I think MKC has a good idea. I'd be a 6/6 Moses! I love Moses.
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or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
as i agree that blue is very easy to use i dont believe its a noob color to use
you forgot son of jacob!
blue is for noobs.
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SCOTT! GET IN HERE! ANDREW IS BEING MEAN AGAIN.
On a related note: I think MKC has a good idea. I'd be a 6/6 Moses! I love Moses.
Jason probably would have been the better choice... (and he is on here now...)
wait, if you were Moses, that'd finally make him an NT Female non-human! ;)
or, perhaps board names can be on the identifier line.
Then I'd change my board name to...
Prophet, Judge, Musician, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, Angel, Royalty
Despite me being none of those ;)
as i agree that blue is very easy to use i dont believe its a noob color to use
you forgot son of jacob!
blue is for noobs.
but... you aren't Nathan...
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Also, I like board names being the "middle name" in the style of...
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly and
Eric "puts something here" Largent
I like this idea a lot.
Mike
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Bryon "Bryon" Hake
Um...
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I really like the idea (I remember posting a similar suggestion a ways back).
My personal preference would be that blue and purple have different themes since the other brigades get their own. I think royalty would be great for purple. Not only would it be nice to a have a N.T. royal purple hero but I think it has strong scriptural backing. The N.T. repeatedly talks about believers being adopted (or born again) into the family of God. God is of course our Father (who art in heaven). Of course Christ is the King of Kings but as His children we are princes or princesses. The N.T. also talks about how we will reign with Christ (judging angels I think?) and God seated us (thrones) in the heavenly places. I know there are probably more I'm missing.
So I like deacons for blue but I think this would be a great option for purple to represent our position with God.
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Bryon "Bryon" Hake
Um...
it could be optional.
and nobody answered my question from earlier... are we allowed to wear a costume for the picture?
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[and nobody answered my question from earlier... are we allowed to wear a costume for the picture?
Orr...you could just bring a collection of pictures to Nats, some in costume and some not so if they ban one of your pictures, you would have backups!
Just a thought...
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I really like the idea (I remember posting a similar suggestion a ways back).
My personal preference would be that blue and purple have different themes since the other brigades get their own. I think royalty would be great for purple. Not only would it be nice to a have a N.T. royal purple hero but I think it has strong scriptural backing. The N.T. repeatedly talks about believers being adopted (or born again) into the family of God. God is of course our Father (who art in heaven). Of course Christ is the King of Kings but as His children we are princes or princesses. The N.T. also talks about how we will reign with Christ (judging angels I think?) and God seated us (thrones) in the heavenly places. I know there are probably more I'm missing.
So I like deacons for blue but I think this would be a great option for purple to represent our position with God.
Those are great points, but the decision was made to stick with Deacon for this year. Besides, it might be nice to have a 4/4 deacon who can use deck H purple convert, which CBN if used by a deacon. :)
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IS the $25 separate from the registration, or is One included just for attending?
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IS the $25 separate from the registration, or is One included just for attending?
I think it is separate, but you will have to ask John. I have nothing to do with $ for nationals or Cactus. :)
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Oh boy, if it's the same cost then I am excited! What kind of card I get depends on the next set, though. (If there are no deacons in the next set, I'll probably go with one of those, depending on what the ability options are.)
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Eunice would totally band to me.
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Eunice would totally band to me.
And gain 2/2!
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Eunice would totally band to me.
And gain 2/2!
Hey, now you're getting personal.
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SCOTT! GET IN HERE! ANDREW IS BEING MEAN AGAIN.
Story of my life. (My evil younger brother is named Andrew.)
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SCOTT! GET IN HERE! ANDREW IS BEING MEAN AGAIN.
Story of my life. (My evil younger brother is named Andrew.)
he was actually calling Wanderer... haha, is Andrew a youngest?
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SCOTT! GET IN HERE! ANDREW IS BEING MEAN AGAIN.
Story of my life. (My evil younger brother is named Andrew.)
he was actually calling Wanderer... haha, is Andrew a youngest?
Well I knew it wasn't me. I don't even remember any Andrews off the top of my head. :D
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This may make me reconsider my earlier decision not to go to Nationals. I want my Daniel "Polarius" Huisinga 6/4 White Musician so bad, especially if I can use one of my band photos for the picture.
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That would be pwnage.
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This may make me reconsider my earlier decision not to go to Nationals. I want my Daniel "Polarius" Huisinga 6/4 White Musician so bad, especially if I can use one of my band photos for the picture.
Or you could be a totally boring musician and use 4/4. ;)
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HAHAHA win. I'd like to have 6/4 for other reasons though...I'm 6'4".
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That was HORRIBLE XD I loved it.
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This may make me reconsider my earlier decision not to go to Nationals. I want my Daniel "Polarius" Huisinga 6/4 White Musician so bad, especially if I can use one of my band photos for the picture.
Or you could be a totally boring musician and use 4/4. ;)
Wow. I looked at this a few hours ago and it completely went over my head. It's been a long time since I've studied any kind of music, but still, I feel kind of slow.
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Is this some kind of joke about a particular band? I know nothing about music...
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Nah. 4/4 is a musical (something). It's the main (something [meter maybe?]) that you'll find in normal music.
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Nah. 4/4 is a musical (something). It's the main (something [meter maybe?]) that you'll find in normal music.
It's known as theTime Signature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature). 4/4 is the most common one.
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woooow, now I feel slow. but if I did choose 4/4, could I have a "C" instead of the 4/4?
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4/4 is much better in baseball than music. ;)
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4/4 is much better in baseball than music. ;)
3/4 is much better in music at baseball games.
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4/4 is much better in baseball than music. ;)
3/4 is much better in music at baseball games.
I don't hear them playing Waltz's at baseball games...
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Ever hear this song at a ballgame? http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227 (http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227)
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Ever hear this song at a ballgame? http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227 (http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227)
true... true...
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Ever hear this song at a ballgame? http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227 (http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0056227)
I'm feverishly doing my best to help change one line of the lyrics:
...buy me some peanuts and Moose Munch (http://www.harryanddavid.com/gifts/store/gift____shop-gifts-by-type_gourmet-popcorn-moose-munch-gifts?ref=google_search_tm&cm_mmc=Google-_-TM%20-%20Moose%20Munch_Moose%20Munch-_-moose%20munch-_-Phrase_4134523474_Page:1&gclid=CMXhpvqS8KACFRJWagodrC7QGw) snacks...
;)
I pitched the idea to our new CEO of striking a deal with MLB to sell Harry & David's now famous Moose Munch snacks at the ballparks. He thought it was a fabulous idea! He used to work for Ted Turner and the Atlanta Braves.
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To answer just a few questions before players panic:
1) There are 6 "templates" to choose from. All are N.T. human heroes.
2) You pick the template for your hero. The red template is a warrior class hero with a "Christian Soldier" reference. The gold template is a Luke hero. The green template is a prophet. The blue and purple templates are deacons. The white template is a musician. There are no teal or silver hero options.
3) You pick the strength you want (4, 5, or 6)
4) You pick the toughness you want (4, 5, or 6)
5) You select one of 4 special ability options for each template.
One of the special ability options (a choice for every template) is "This hero has access to all sites."
A second option is "May band to ___ or ___." The blanks are filled based on the template you chose. For red, gold, and blue, the first blank is Soldier of God. For green, purple, and white, the first blank is Faithful Servant. The other blank is red-Christian Soldier, gold-Good Samaritan, green-Paladin (green), blue- Seeker of the Lost, purple- Saint of Virtue, and white-Saint of Virtue (purple and white go rather well together, and this is a good option for kids with a deck H).
The other two special ability options are more specifically designed to be helpful in the brigade.
6) The title of the card is your first and last name
7) the art on the card is a picture of you.
8 ) you are the only player allowed to use your card in a deck.
9) you will only be allowed ONE such custom card per deck, regardless of type of play
10) promised to be tournament legal for the 2010-2011 season only. Beyond that, tournament legality will be decided on a year-by-year basis by Rob.
Musician, 4/6 and i can band to a good priest or a musician. can someone make this for me?
Who ever is willing to do so, i will send you my picture, i just need your E-mail. PM me please.
nope. that's not one of the ability choices.
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To answer just a few questions before players panic:
1) There are 6 "templates" to choose from. All are N.T. human heroes.
2) You pick the template for your hero. The red template is a warrior class hero with a "Christian Soldier" reference. The gold template is a Luke hero. The green template is a prophet. The blue and purple templates are deacons. The white template is a musician. There are no teal or silver hero options.
3) You pick the strength you want (4, 5, or 6)
4) You pick the toughness you want (4, 5, or 6)
5) You select one of 4 special ability options for each template.
One of the special ability options (a choice for every template) is "This hero has access to all sites."
A second option is "May band to ___ or ___." The blanks are filled based on the template you chose. For red, gold, and blue, the first blank is Soldier of God. For green, purple, and white, the first blank is Faithful Servant. The other blank is red-Christian Soldier, gold-Good Samaritan, green-Paladin (green), blue- Seeker of the Lost, purple- Saint of Virtue, and white-Saint of Virtue (purple and white go rather well together, and this is a good option for kids with a deck H).
The other two special ability options are more specifically designed to be helpful in the brigade.
6) The title of the card is your first and last name
7) the art on the card is a picture of you.
8 ) you are the only player allowed to use your card in a deck.
9) you will only be allowed ONE such custom card per deck, regardless of type of play
10) promised to be tournament legal for the 2010-2011 season only. Beyond that, tournament legality will be decided on a year-by-year basis by Rob.
Musician, 4/6 and i can band to a good priest or a musician. can someone make this for me?
Who ever is willing to do so, i will send you my picture, i just need your E-mail. PM me please.
nope. that's not one of the ability choices.
Oh, ok, i see now. then... heman or phineas son of eleazar
also not one of the choices.
A second option is "May band to ___ or ___." The blanks are filled based on the template you chose. [bold]For red, gold, and blue, the first blank is Soldier of God. For green, purple, and white, the first blank is Faithful Servant. The other blank is red-Christian Soldier, gold-Good Samaritan, green-Paladin (green), blue- Seeker of the Lost, purple- Saint of Virtue, and white-Saint of Virtue (purple and white go rather well together, and this is a good option for kids with a deck H).[/bold]
The other two special ability options are more specifically designed to be helpful in the brigade.
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Darn Howed I miss that? So much for banding my little brother (Caleb) to Caleb
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Or you could be a totally boring musician and use 4/4. ;)
Wow. I looked at this a few hours ago and it completely went over my head. It's been a long time since I've studied any kind of music, but still, I feel kind of slow.
I looked at it, too, and I didn't get it until you pointed it out here. I am ashamed. It is so clever as 4/4 is not only the most common time signature, but also is the boring standard hero from the original set of Redemption cards. This deserves to be saved here. (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=12349.msg321341#msg321341)
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Apparently, Eutychus thought Paul's Sunday Sermon was a 4/4.
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Wow these new "self" cards are really cool. :)
What happens when you have the new "you" and "self" in play? Wouldn't that be a duplicate card?
Too bad I can't make it to Nats to get one. :-\
So I must take out my frustrations in creative ways. :P
When I gleefully Christian Martyr one of these "nationals only specialized player cards," wouldn't that mean I automatically win the game since I killed my opponent? ;D
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When I gleefully Christian Martyr one of these "nationals only specialized player cards," wouldn't that mean I automatically win the game since I killed my opponent? ;D
Other Prof, you definitely should add this to your quotes.
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When I gleefully Christian Martyr one of these "nationals only specialized player cards," wouldn't that mean I automatically win the game since I killed my opponent? ;D
Other Prof, you definitely should add this to your quotes.
+1
This quote made me lol (well...in my head anyways (usually don't laugh loudly at work :P)).
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No, you just killed your opponent's avatar...sorry :P
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This is a cool idea! I wish i could go to Nationals. I'd put me in a speed deck :)
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I like this idea, but these heroes should not be competitive and have special abilities. It's a genius novelty that would be completely unique to Redemption, but shouldn't have an effect on tournament play, especially being that it's only available to Nationals attendees.
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I like this idea, but these heroes should not be competitive and have special abilities. It's a genius novelty that would be completely unique to Redemption, but shouldn't have an effect on tournament play, especially being that it's only available to Nationals attendees.
They won't be comptevie because the effcts are banding effects ugh.
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but you see, I wanted to throw down my "Andrew Wester" card, activate Windows of Narrow Light and rip off my shirt to reveal that I'm superman.
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but you see, I wanted to ... rip off my shirt ...
As appealing as that is, I do not believe it is appropriate for a Christian environment. :P
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but you see, I wanted to ... rip off my shirt ...
As appealing as that is
:o
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Appealing to whom? You? O_o
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You realize that was a joke...right? I really do not want to see anyone's shirt taken off at a Redemption tournament. :P (Especially not a guy's. ;))
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My understanding is that there will be more than just banding abilities. Generic heroes won't have a big effect on game play, even if they have identifiers, but something like an NT Musician with two special abilities would be very competitive.
I think the idea is great and nothing like I've heard of before. However, if they are only a novelty for National attendees, I think they should not have both SAs and identifiers (either/or would be fine). Or if they are to be tournament viable, they should be available on Cactus' website or through some other promotion (in addition to Nationals).
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+1 I agree that they should be available AFTER nationals for non national attendees. Just like Nats goers get first shots at the new set.
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+1 It seems almost sickening to me that this option will be available only to those who have the time and money to go to nationals.
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I disagree with the above 3 posts...I think it is a great way to celebrate a Redemption milestone and to encourage attendance.
@ JDS: if you cut the cards to worthlessness, then who would spend the money to make the card? they are carefully making sure that the cards are not OPed. I don't see why you are arguing this unless you plan a) not to show to Nats or b)on not getting the cards and you want to rain on everyone else's parade.
@ those who can't attend Nats: I feel for you, but that doesn't negate what a great opportunity this is.
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I will be attending Nationals and getting one of these cards, I just don't think they should be powerful enough to put all the people who don't have them at a competitive disadvantage.
The NT Musician is one example that especially concerns me, as it will be the only NT Musician in the game, and that would clearly be a big help to any competitive musicians deck. I have also helped play test the Disciples, and I don't think it's revealing something new to say that NT heroes with identifiers will soon be even more tournament viable.
I think if they had only identifiers or only special abilities, they would still be useful, but as it sounds now, I believe they could have too much impact on tournament decks to be so exclusive.
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... competitive musicians deck.
Hopefully the fact that Musician is an option means that this will no longer be an oxy-moron after the next set...:P
Seriously though, I think it is a good idea not to have identifiers. Keep the abilities, but the identifiers add a level of power which is too high for a card which only one person can use (as JDS said, especially for musicians).
Al least for me, such a change will not affect whether or not I buy a self card. If I can make it to nationals and if I have enough money to spare when I do, I will be buying one of these cards, powerful or not. I think having a legal card of myself is worth every penny I pay.
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Well, if they're going in the REG after they are made... then that means they'll likely end up in RTS for all to use. ;)
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Wow... I've missed this thread for a month... snap. I must say, something this cool I REALLY wish is something we could pay to have done. I mean... you get to be a redemption card! That's amazing and makes me REALLY wish I could go to nationals. :-[ Oh well...
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Can you give us an idea when we get to know those?
John will post one template per week with the special ability options, beginning sometime soon.
I'm very interested to start seeing these. Does anyone have information on when these "previews" might start?
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Can you give us an idea when we get to know those?
John will post one template per week with the special ability options, beginning sometime soon.
I'm very interested to start seeing these. Does anyone have information on when these "previews" might start?
And when will we get the first Disciples article as well?
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June 17th for the first disciples article. :)
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Can you give us an idea when we get to know those?
John will post one template per week with the special ability options, beginning sometime soon.
I'm very interested to start seeing these. Does anyone have information on when these "previews" might start?
And I'm looking forward to seeing reactions. :)
Talk to John M. about start dates for the previews. I'm guessing soon (although that was my guess a month ago, so...).
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John M preview the create your own hero cards at Mass States and also had the lists at ne regionals.
I am thinking about a purple decon (youth pastor) but can't remember some of the sa's to choose from.
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WooHoo! (http://ggamestore.com/Natsshop/viewcategory.php?groupid=2) ;D
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Well, pastor has me ???? Evangelist has me ???? aaaaand the only ability that even made me consider buying one is Musical. Not to hate, just wish they weren't such bland abilities.
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WooHoo! (http://ggamestore.com/Natsshop/viewcategory.php?groupid=2) ;D
Do you know if I can make a legal hobbit card? Can I make a legal pikachu card? if I can Pikachu will be an evangelist. 8)
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The card title must be your name. If you show proof that you changed your legal name to Pikachu, I suppose... :)
Kurt is going to pick musician. I'm probably getting this one for my gold Luke hero: Each player must draw one. It is nice to have another trigger for A-bom. :)
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Yeah, the abilities are not exciting me enough to want to pay $25 for one of these. I don't take good pictures anyway. :P
I might not even be at nats though...
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Yeah, the abilities are not exciting me enough to want to pay $25 for one of these. I don't take good pictures anyway. :P
I might not even be at nats though...
sad face. I'm going no matter what it takes!
I'm going to pick musician. the other abilities are meh, outside of evangelist characters. I really what to know what Hymns are...
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Hyms are singing :) Famous ones include "Gloria in Excelsius Deo" and varius Passover Hymns.
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I didn't ask what hyms are, I already knew they were signing. I love making signs up. I really want to know what hymns are though. I suspect it has something to do with singing, but...
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(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhahasigns.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F05%2Ffunny_sign_1.jpg&hash=9336b1bc57dccc9af3b5da40095d57542caf9b85)
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I am guessing that either Hymns are a new identifyer on some Disciples Expansion cards or a new category that old cards will be assigned to or a mixture of both. They include but are not limited to:
My soul doth magnify the Lord,
and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior.
for he has looked with favor on the lowliness of his servant.
Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed;
for the Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name.
His mercy is for those who fear him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with his arm;
he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts.
He has brought down the powerful from their thrones,
and lifted up the lowly;
he has filled the hungry with good things,
and sent the rich away empty.
He has helped his servant Israel,
in remembrance of his mercy,
according to the promise he made to our ancestors,
to Abraham and to his descendants forever."
-- Luke 1:46-7 (Magnificat)
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel;
for He hath visited and redeemed His people.
-- Luke 1: 68 (Benedictus Dominus Deus Israel)
Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace,
according to thy word: for mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
which thou has prepared before the face of all people:
a light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
-- Luke 2: 29-32 (Nuc Dimittis Servum Tuum)
Biblical scholars generally agree that certain passages of scripture were early Christian hymns and criteria have been developed for identifying these texts. Here is a summary of these criteria:
-- The passage contains vocabulary which is different from that of the surrounding context.
-- The passage is written in poetic form, that is, it exhibits rhythmical patterns and careful structure.
-- The content of the passage interrupts the context.
-- The name of the deity is absent and is replaced by a relative clause or a participle.
-- Words are used in the passage which are found nowhere else in the New Testament.
-- The cosmic role of God or Christ is emphasized.
-- Theological concepts and christological doctrine are expressed in exalted and liturgical language.
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Great research! You found 3 of them!
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Question: Will all Hymns be NT?
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So far, I think so.
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But there are things like hymns found in the New Testament in the Old Testament but they are called something else... ???
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Psalms...?
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No, Psalms are different...at least according to Ephesians 5:19
"Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,"
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What I mean is, so far, I think all the hymns in Redemption are N.T.
Do you know of any O.T. hymns that are Redemption cards?
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I Am Mercy (Psalm 103:8') -- purple good enhancement
Leviathan (Psalm 104:26) -- not eligible for white special ability since it is an evil character, not a good enhancement
Praise Him Moon (Psalm 148:3) -- silver/white good enhancement
So I guess it turns out that all Hymns in the Old Testament (at least the ones I have found) are Psalms, but not all Psalms are Hymns...very interesting. The only upside to having the white brigade special ability that lets you play a good Hymn enhancement regardless of brigade is you can play I Am Mercy to protect your hand and draw pile from discard abilities during one battle phase...that seems way too OPd ::)
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I think you mixed up 2 different abilities:
1 Search discard pile for a Hymn and place it beneath deck.
2 May use good Psalms enhancements regardless of brigade.
The "use other enhancements" is for Psalms, not Hymns.
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Yeah I did...oops :o
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Can the picture only include myself or can another individual or individuals be in the picture as well?
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yeah, good question, can I have one of me and my son?
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yeah, I want one of me and Sauce together. and for everybody out there, my name is Alan Rice...