Author Topic: FoM legal tournament play (Read 4545 times)

Jonesy · « **on:** May 11, 2018, 02:29:57 PM »

When will FoM be legal to play in tournaments?

The Guardian · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2018, 02:37:08 PM »

Rob posted on Facebook that initial orders will start shipping June 2nd. IIRC, we usually set a two week window from the initial release date to being tournament legal so perhaps the weekend of June 15th/16th? Not saying that's confirmed, just speculating.

Jonesy · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2018, 04:07:56 PM »

I was wondering if it would wait until the second printing got shipped since the first was sold out. That means some people may not of been able to get their hands on them.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2018, 04:59:24 PM »

Yeah, not really liking the 3 month tournament season schedule.

Gabe · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2018, 05:34:46 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit on May 11, 2018, 04:59:24 PM

Yeah, not really liking the 3 month tournament season schedule.

I foresee that changing...

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2018, 11:55:01 AM »

We are planning our State tournament that weekend, so it matters greatly if this is the date we are using or not.

Gabe · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2018, 04:15:55 PM »

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on May 12, 2018, 11:55:01 AM

We are planning our State tournament that weekend, so it matters greatly if this is the date we are using or not.

Because there are a number of factors that we don’t have control over it’s too early to guarantee the street legal date. Based on past experience it’s likely to be legal that weekend. We can probably lock in a date once product is officially released.

The Guardian · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2018, 04:21:58 PM »

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2018, 08:08:20 PM »

I know we are still awaiting Rob receiving the cards before cards can get out. But it looks like there will be 3 state tournaments the weekend of June 15th & 16th (and two "higher level" tournaments before). I'm still wondering about legality.

Honestly, I'm not as much concerned with being able to play with these cards as I am the true honest "fairness" of this time frame. People who have the money are able to buy complete sets or enough boxes to get a complete set. But if you don't have the spare money then do you really have a chance to compete?

As much as I hate to even mention this, I almost feel like these cards should NOT be legal for "open" play until AT LEAST a month after "official" release. I don't like the idea of RNRS points being skewed towards people with the money because their decks are going to be "stronger." I obviously see no problem with including them in "closed" categories, as the availability will be equal to all. I know Gabe eluded to this being a potential non-issue in the future, but it is an issue now.

This is just the opinion of someone who won't be affected by the ruling, as I had the spare money to pick up some cards. I also have zero RNRS points as of right now, so it could help me get some quickly. But more importantly I am a host who has a lot of young players that attend my tournaments, and I would prefer them to not get mad or frustrated by the fact that people have these cool new cards and they don't!

Xonathan · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2018, 08:33:25 PM »

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on May 22, 2018, 08:08:20 PM

I know we are still awaiting Rob receiving the cards before cards can get out. But it looks like there will be 3 state tournaments the weekend of June 15th & 16th (and two "higher level" tournaments before). I'm still wondering about legality.

Honestly, I'm not as much concerned with being able to play with these cards as I am the true honest "fairness" of this time frame. People who have the money are able to buy complete sets or enough boxes to get a complete set. But if you don't have the spare money then do you really have a chance to compete?

As much as I hate to even mention this, I almost feel like these cards should NOT be legal for "open" play until AT LEAST a month after "official" release. I don't like the idea of RNRS points being skewed towards people with the money because their decks are going to be "stronger." I obviously see no problem with including them in "closed" categories, as the availability will be equal to all. I know Gabe eluded to this being a potential non-issue in the future, but it is an issue now.

This is just the opinion of someone who won't be affected by the ruling, as I had the spare money to pick up some cards. I also have zero RNRS points as of right now, so it could help me get some quickly. But more importantly I am a host who has a lot of young players that attend my tournaments, and I would prefer them to not get mad or frustrated by the fact that people have these cool new cards and they don't!

I understand what your saying but I also wouldn't penalize people for actively supporting the game buying the cards and attending tournaments. It's the nature of CCG's that some people may not have all the cards but the great thing about Redemption is that fact that we do have an amazing community that shares/gives, offers advice, and (like yourself) looks out for the young players. All that to say, I hope people can use the FoM cards when everyone receives them specially since it isn't a long tournament season before nats.

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2018, 08:52:34 PM »

Its common for collectable games to have new products legal 7-10 days after the release. If cards ship on June 2nd as expected I don’t see any reason they shouldn’t be legal the weekend of the 16th.

Will players have an advantage if they planned ahead and saved money to buy the new cards we’ve all known were coming out for months? Maybe.

The card pool is vast enough that I don’t think player who don’t have FoM will be at a large disadvantage. Last year I played at Iowa States with decks that had no RoJ and no Reserve while others had both.

adevine · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2018, 08:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 22, 2018, 08:52:34 PM

Its common for collectable games to have new products legal 7-10 days after the release. If cards ship on June 2nd as expected I don’t see any reason they shouldn’t be legal the weekend of the 16th.

Will players have an advantage if they planned ahead and saved money to buy the new cards we’ve all known were coming out for months? Maybe.

The card pool is vast enough that I don’t think player who don’t have FoM will be at a large disadvantage. Last year I played at Iowa States with decks that had no RoJ and no Reserve while others had both.

This is good to know, i am hoping to host an intro day one saturday in June for the kids at church.

The Guardian · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2018, 10:36:03 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 22, 2018, 08:52:34 PM

Will players have an advantage if they planned ahead and saved money to buy the new cards we’ve all known were coming out for months? Maybe.

it would be one thing if we announced a set was releasing in one month, but FoM was announced months ago and the release model is the same as it was for RoJ so really people could have started planning as soon as they obtained what they needed for RoJ. It's always going to be easier for people who can afford large purchases all at once, regardless of when the cards release and how soon the set is legal.

Jonesy · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2018, 10:41:26 PM »

I am more concerned for the people who will not get their cards until the second print.

CactusRob · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:16:01 AM »

FoM cards will begin shipping to distributors today and continue through Tuesday. The 2nd printing is in production at the printer now and I hope to receive the 2nd printing by the end of next week. If all goes well, cards from 2nd printing will go out the week of June 4th.

Cards will be legal for tournament play starting June 9th. We only have two tournaments scheduled that weekend. Steve's in FL. FoM cards will be legal for that event. We also have Kevin's state level tournament in Canada June 8 & 9. Because of the extra delay in getting cards to Canada, Kevin and I have agreed that he will not allow FoM cards in his tournament that weekend.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:19:51 AM »

Quote from: CactusRob on May 23, 2018, 10:16:01 AM

FoM cards will begin shipping to distributors today and continue will through Tuesday. The 2nd printing is in production at the printer now and I hope to receive the 2nd printing by the end of next week. If all goes well, cards from 2nd printing will go out the week of June 4th.

Cards will be legal for tournament play starting June 9th. We only have two tournaments scheduled that weekend. Steve's in FL. FoM cards will be legal for that event. We also have Kevin's state level tournament in Canada June 8 & 9. Because of the extra delay in getting cards to Canada, Kevin and I have agreed that he will not allow FoM cards in his tournament that weekend.

This is awesome! Thanks for all you do Rob!

adevine · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:23:39 AM »

Sweet!!!!! Could have my cards by next week!!

Ironisaac · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:48:34 AM »

YYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
Thanks so much Rob!

MrMiYoda · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:49:55 PM »

Quote from: CactusRob on May 23, 2018, 10:16:01 AM

FoM cards will begin shipping to distributors today and continue through Tuesday. The 2nd printing is in production at the printer now and I hope to receive the 2nd printing by the end of next week. If all goes well, cards from 2nd printing will go out the week of June 4th.

Cards will be legal for tournament play starting June 9th. We only have two tournaments scheduled that weekend. Steve's in FL. FoM cards will be legal for that event. We also have Kevin's state level tournament in Canada June 8 & 9. Because of the extra delay in getting cards to Canada, Kevin and I have agreed that he will not allow FoM cards in his tournament that weekend.

WE HAVE STICKY'ED THE ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE MAIN 'REDEMPTION TOURNAMENTS' THREAD.

News:

Author Topic: FoM legal tournament play (Read 4545 times)

TheHobbit13

adevine

adevine