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Choose the dates that are best for you

July 26-28
18 (20.7%)
August 9-11
23 (26.4%)
I cannot attend July 26-28
17 (19.5%)
I cannot attend August 9-11
11 (12.6%)
I can attend either date
18 (20.7%)

Total Members Voted: 46

Voting closed: March 13, 2012, 10:08:21 AM

Author Topic: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates  (Read 15422 times)

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 02:51:49 PM »
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Actually, National Potato Day is the 19th of August.

Source.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 02:52:26 PM »
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I think we should have a new poll, and specifically request that only people who can only make one date vote, to help get a better picture.

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2012, 02:57:14 PM »
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Now I want Nats on National Potato Day.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 03:06:37 PM »
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Now I want Nats on National Potato Day.
Someone needs to bring potatoes.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2012, 03:40:00 PM »
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I think we should have a new poll, and specifically request that only people who can only make one date vote, to help get a better picture.

I concur with this and have refrained from voting as I can potentially make either at this point.

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2012, 03:45:10 PM »
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I think we should have a new poll, and specifically request that only people who can only make one date vote, to help get a better picture.

I concur with this and have refrained from voting as I can potentially make either at this point.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2012, 03:54:59 PM »
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I'm voting for the date that everyone who can beat me can't make.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2012, 04:25:34 PM »
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Also, my guess is that many people's school may be starting by the August date, so the July is probably better overall.
Third week of August is usually the earliest. We've had it on the second week of August quite a few times, and nobody has brought this up before (at least, not that I can remember)

But I do remember...

Looks like I can not make it. August 14th is first day of fall semester. Why do the second week in August when so much of our players are still in school? I realize dates can not please everyone, but why not try to please the majority? I would do it in the last week of July, that way students can come.
many states start school after Labor Day. For the rest of us, the second week of August is very bad timing.
Why have two nationals been on the second week...? Not enough educators on the boards?

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2012, 04:32:31 PM »
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I'd be willing to bet that in 90% of the country, school starts the third week of August or later. YMT has stated he's not going to Nats regardless of location, so I'm not sure why his quote is even that relevant, and additionally, he is a teacher, meaning that he starts before students start school (which is what Hiatus is referring to, and frankly, I don't know of any colleges [including the Naval Academy] other than his that start the fall semester that early).

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2012, 04:34:38 PM »
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The point is some people won't be able to go regardless of when it is. I don't think we should be measuring this based on preferences, but rather, attendance. There's a very good chance I can't attend if its in July, I know there are others who probably can't attend if its in July. Likewise, I know of at least two people who can't come if its in August.

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2012, 04:40:17 PM »
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My school starts august 14th. :p

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2012, 05:11:49 PM »
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YMT has stated he's not going to Nats regardless of location, so I'm not sure why his quote is even that relevant, ...

There are more people in Florida than just me.  ;)

Many Florida counties start the first and second week of August, usually to have a vacation schedule that is different from the rest of the country (since everybody comes to Florida for vacation ;D ).

Whether I come or not, I am still allowed to vote, so I vote for July on behalf of my fellow Central Floridians.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2012, 05:21:49 PM »
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I can't come if its on National potato day so forget it. Bad analogy.  ;)

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2012, 05:24:06 PM »
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Whether I come or not, I am still allowed to vote, so I vote for July on behalf of my fellow Central Floridians.

With all due respect, you shouldn't vote if you don't plan to try to attend (if able). If other Central Floridians wish to have a say, they can easily register for this free service and then vote. If there is several of them who want to attend and can only make July, they could probably swing the vote a little towards July. However, until they register, I don't really think you should be able to vote in absentee for them whenever you have no intentions of attending Nationals either way. To me, that really defeats the purpose of trying to stage a vote to determine when people can make the National tournament. Should I vote in a poll to determine the date of the South East Regional if I have no intention of going to that Regional (even if my friend wished to go and such a poll existed)? No, because I do not plan on attending it or supporting it in anyway, thus, I don't really deserve a say on anything about the tournament.

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2012, 05:27:42 PM »
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Many Florida counties start the first and second week of August, usually to have a vacation schedule that is different from the rest of the country (since everybody comes to Florida for vacation ;D ).
Maybe a side-effect of that is a really really weird meta game.

On a side note, aren't most (if not all) of the core (the people who go to Nats) Florida players out of school?

Whether I come or not, I am still allowed to vote, so I vote for July on behalf of my fellow Central Floridians.

With all due respect, you shouldn't vote if you don't plan to try to attend (if able). If other Central Floridians wish to have a say, they can easily register for this free service and then vote. If there is several of them who want to attend and can only make July, they could probably swing the vote a little towards July. However, until they register, I don't really think you should be able to vote in absentee for them whenever you have no intentions of attending Nationals either way. To me, that really defeats the purpose of trying to stage a vote to determine when people can make the National tournament. Should I vote in a poll to determine the date of the South East Regional if I have no intention of going to that Regional (even if my friend wished to go and such a poll existed)? No, because I do not plan on attending it or supporting it in anyway, thus, I don't really deserve a say on anything about the tournament.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2012, 05:30:58 PM »
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With all due respect, you shouldn't vote if you don't plan to try to attend (if able).

With all due respect, I disagree. My vote is in.

On a side note, aren't most (if not all) of the core (the people who go to Nats) Florida players out of school?

All of my playgroup is in school, as they are less than 16 years old. Several are too young for their parents to allow a "free service" account on these boards.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2012, 05:37:50 PM »
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I'd be willing to bet that in 90% of the country, school starts the third week of August or later. YMT has stated he's not going to Nats regardless of location, so I'm not sure why his quote is even that relevant, and additionally, he is a teacher, meaning that he starts before students start school (which is what Hiatus is referring to, and frankly, I don't know of any colleges [including the Naval Academy] other than his that start the fall semester that early).

Fine, use me, the second week of August would likely knock me out. July would be 10,000 times better
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
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I can't come if its on National potato day so forget it. Bad analogy.  ;)

Now thats just as unAmerican as not liking Apple Pie.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2012, 05:41:31 PM »
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On a side note, aren't most (if not all) of the core (the people who go to Nats) Florida players out of school?

All of my playgroup is in school, as they are less than 16 years old. Several are too young for their parents to allow a "free service" account on these boards.
Notice I said core players. Most people under 16 aren't going to travel to a nationals that isn't in a bordering state. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only current Floridans who have been to nationals are RR and the Delarosas (all of whom are on the boards).

I'd be willing to bet that in 90% of the country, school starts the third week of August or later. YMT has stated he's not going to Nats regardless of location, so I'm not sure why his quote is even that relevant, and additionally, he is a teacher, meaning that he starts before students start school (which is what Hiatus is referring to, and frankly, I don't know of any colleges [including the Naval Academy] other than his that start the fall semester that early).

Fine, use me, the second week of August would likely knock me out. July would be 10,000 times better
Then vote July, you're in the same position as Alex and myself, just on the opposite side. The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2012, 05:43:22 PM »
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The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

What is the basis for this statement?
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2012, 05:46:41 PM »
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Notice I said core players. Most people under 16 aren't going to travel to a nationals that isn't in a bordering state.

I did notice, but a bunch of my younger players have relatives in TN, so they will be able to attend. That is the whole reason we have Nats in varying locales, so the RLKs from each region actually have hope of attending.

The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

That is an incorrect assumption about why I voted. See above.


I can't come if its on National potato day so forget it. Bad analogy.  ;)

Now thats just as unAmerican as not liking Apple Pie.

So, when is Apple Pie Day?
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2012, 05:50:40 PM »
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The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)
What is the basis for this statement?
The first page. I have no idea who has voted for what, but if it could go either way and you want to have your birthday at nats, that's a pretty silly reason to keep people from going to nats*.

*I understand that no date is perfect, the point here is to find which brings more people, and if August truly is the one with more attendance then it shouldn't get unjustly shoved aside because of that. If it's July, I'll accept that, but voting just to vote is silly.

Notice I said core players. Most people under 16 aren't going to travel to a nationals that isn't in a bordering state.

I did notice, but a bunch of my younger players have relatives in TN, so they will be able to attend. That is the whole reason we have Nats in varying locales, so the RLKs from each region actually have hope of attending.
If they're accompanied by parents, they can certainly have their parents do it for them. It takes a whole 5 minutes.

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The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

That is an incorrect assumption about why I voted. See above.
That comment wasn't directed at you (see above). I still disagree with voting for somebody else (popularity contests FTL), but I understand where you're coming from, and there's really not much I can do about it anyway (especially because people can't remove vote...why?)

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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2012, 05:56:15 PM »
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...Fine, use me, the second week of August would likely knock me out. July would be 10,000 times better
Then vote July, you're in the same position as Alex and myself, just on the opposite side. The qualm here is people voting because the weather is nicer, even though they can make either date, or people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

I did.  Not saying I cant go in August, but it would be really bad timing.
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2012, 05:57:44 PM »
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If they're accompanied by parents, they can certainly have their parents do it for them. It takes a whole 5 minutes.

Many parents are not going to take the time to make an account for one vote, especially since they can just ask an established member to vote. It also takes time for a new account to be accepted, so 5 minutes is an exagerration.

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people just voting because polls are cool (even though they have no plan on attending Nats)

That comment wasn't directed at you (see above).

The birthday people are going. I am the only one who said they were not going. How is this statement not directed at me?
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Re: Assuming Nationals is in Knoxville, TN - pick the dates
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2012, 05:58:27 PM »
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The first page. I have no idea who has voted for what, but if it could go either way and you want to have your birthday at nats, that's a pretty silly reason to keep people from going to nats*.

Thats a pretty bold statement to make when a) it was simply stated who's birthday is during which time frame and b) you have absolutely no idea behind my reason nor motivation for voting for whichever date I happened to choose. Lets be wary of making or implying completely unfounded assumptions. :-*
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