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I'm not going to quote Chris' wall of text but I completely agree with all of it. IMO most of the games problems come from management.

Quote from: AJ on April 30, 2014, 06:37:34 PM

IMO most of the games problems come from management.

Redemption's problems stem from the fact it's produced by a family run company with a finite amount of resources and not a mega conglomerate game corporation who have millions to pump into a single game. It really isn't fair to call out Robs or the Playtesters management of the game as the source of the problem.

There are tons of people in the community who are willing to volunteer.

Without any qualifications.

I disagree. There are plenty of people on the boards that could qualify. Korunks has built probably the best and most original game I have ever played. Westy ,you, Redoubter,Blake,and Chris also come to mind as qualified people to play test.

If this is going to become a bashing session, I am going to quarantine this topic. It's already gotten off topic from the original question enough, now stop it, please.

Agreed.  Prior to quarantining the topic, it may be useful to split it so the first three posts (up through Westy's first response) remain visible.  If anyone is interested in the original question, things are pretty much asked and answered by that point.

When the blame game starts going into play (whether it is deserved or not), it has the potential to devolving into a bashing game. That is all I am saying.

I also want you to remember - some people find Redemption, then find these boards. If I was a new player that saw all of these discussions that have a bit of a negative edge to them and that indicated these sorts of negative things, I may just say forget it.

My point? Are there issues? Yes. Should they be talked about in an intelligent way? Yes. Do they need to be rehashed a million times? No. The more of these threads that come up and then devolve into "here's what's wrong," the faster the end (which is inevitable - it happens to all games) is going to come. The topic has been talked about, we've all seen what's going on, there's no need to beat a dead horse.

I agree, though we should not lay blame on anyone. I haven't contacted the elders saying that I am enormously in favor of the proposal, and that might be the reason that there is not action now. I have 3 friends who would like to start playing, but dont know if they will go to tournamens since it is so expencive to get a tournament ready deck. Rob's Proposal would solve almost all cost issues, tournaments could have the old experienced players that are willing to spend lots of money on the cards, and the newer players along with the experienced playing with the new cards in the new section.

It could also be that the elders are waiting till after nationals, since they already have a new set they are planning on releasing.

If I am a customer, have been loyaly buying merchandise for 5+ years, I deserve a right to say what I would like to get fixed. Consumers saying what they would like to get fixed isn't going to bring the end sooner, but the producers not listening to the consumers wants will. But that's beside the point. I have always felt that the games goal is to be a ministry and for brothers and sisters in Christ  to fellowship, and that's exactly what the game has done. The end will come when God wants it to. It's his game.

What's a "blog?" 

IMO most of the games problems come from management.

It has become clear to me that atheist players started playing Redemption with the sole purpose of plotting its demise. They infiltrated the infrastructure of the game by becoming playtesters and moderators. Now they revel in the apparent success of their mission.

Hail Hydra! 

You were being serious, right?

I'm insulted that you would even need to ask such a question.

It has become clear to me that atheist players started playing Redemption with the sole purpose of plotting its demise.

And I would have gotten away with it to, if it weren't for that meddling prof.