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Ultra rares were almost 10 years ago.
Quote from: Westy on March 19, 2014, 08:06:52 PMUltra rares were almost 10 years ago.Now they are full-body art with neat little ripples in the cards....
I love the pretty much every idea from Olijar's post (though that's totally not set rotation, and it bothers me that you only say it technically isn't set rotation. It just plain isn't set rotation). The only reason I'd be opposed to a reboot from I/J would be because of the money and effort I've put into my collection and decks from pre-I/J but an official unrestricted type takes away those concerns. And while that format might have a terrible unbalanced meta, that isn't really that much different from the current meta and I'd still have fun playing in it anyway. Also I would love if multiplayer were eliminated as official categories. It frees up time in tournaments for better categories by eliminating what is in my opinion the weakest of all categories. Multiplayer might be fun in casual play, but I personally don't think it deserves a place in official categories. So all in all I am a fan of the idea of a reboot using post-I/J as long as we keep a format for pre-I/J.
I really like the idea of a reboot. I think it is a necessary thing if we hope to have a vibrant Redemption see its 25th anniversary. I have three items for further discussion...First, I see you kept booster and sealed. I assume the booster would be the "unlimited" closed format and sealed would be the reboot one. Is this correct?Second, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to dump multi-player. Especially if the primary reason really is solely to make Nats scheduling more convenient. Having a good multi-player capability out of the box is a selling point for the game overall. In games that don't have it (e.g. Legend of the Five Rings) multi-player always ends up being one of the most requested items by the player base.Third, I hope that any serious consideration of a game reboot would also include taking a fresh look at the distribution model as well. Right now the size of the player base makes Redemption borderline (at best) as a viable collectible game. Couple that with the huge shift in the Christian retail landscape over the past 20 years, and you have a real problem going forward.
Quote from: Westy on March 19, 2014, 08:06:52 PMUltra rares were almost 10 years ago. Exactly why the game isn't doing as good as it was 10 years ago.
It's not "set rotation" because Redemption doesn't have "sets". Otherwise, I think it is.
Quote from: Alex_Olijar on March 21, 2014, 08:17:09 AMIt's not "set rotation" because Redemption doesn't have "sets". Otherwise, I think it is.I'm pretty sure what everyone means by 'sets' is 'expansions'. What you may be referring to is 'blocks', as in, a multitude of successive expansions (that usually share the same theme), which Redemption doesn't really have. But Drrek is saying how the proposal fails to demonstrate any kind of rotation...set, block, or otherwise. Are there plans to consistently remove expansions or whole blocks from the format to allow new expansions to enter the format? If so, that is rotation. But it seems to me to just be a banning of all cards pre-IJ and reboot from IJ forward.
If you get the banning of all cards prior to the I/J deck,what do you want done with those cards? Redemption tournaments with old cards for fun,recycling,drink holders?Personally if we do a reboot I suggest we vote here-on the boards-for that.Here are a few questions/thoughts for yall. 1) A post for Rob to read as to what cards you'd like to see in the next few sets.2) What to do with the old cards?3) What current sets to carry over with the reboot till more cards come out?
If I am not mistaken what Alex is proposing is not set rotation but is creating two separate game formats... yes? This has proven to work by a number of older games to work... VS, Magic and Decipher games to name a few... annnd if I'm not mistaken this means you are in support of a reboot of sorts yes? Just trying to decipher the wall of text
Does anybody know any of the cards that are being considered for the new set? I'd like to see a Matthis in purple since he replaced Judas as the 12th apostle. I wouldn't mind seeing a Josephus promo card or a McBees promo card. I realize that they're technically not in the Bible,however they are part of it. Also will there be a Saul and Paul reprint?I'll come back later and correct my spelling.
1. Some the elders release hints about cards or possible reprints so there may be some people who know a little more then they are admitting. 2. Sadness stated apostle not disciple. 3. What makes St. Patrick bad?4. I really like Saul/Paul but a reprint with a more useable Paul woul be cool. Or perhaps a couple ways to very easily convert Saul to Paul without much cost.
Regardless of if you agree or not, I’m just going to go right into my proposal. Technically this isn’t really my proposal for the most part, but rather a group thought that developed over the summer, but I’m not at liberty to discuss who it came from. It is important to note that this idea is probably not able to be implemented until another 1-2 set releases.1. Create a “new” format. This format would be the rotated format. The format would begin at I/J starter decks. This is the perfect starting point because a new card look was introduced, making it obvious which cards are legal in this new format. You could also continue to play tournaments in the “unlimited” format with all cards legal for those who would like to do so.2. Eliminate multiplayer. I probably enjoy type 1 MP as much as anyone in the world, but it’s broken. It’s just not how the game is designed to be played. Ditto for Teams. As for T2 MP, if the game is played properly, it should never finish in time barring weird draws, so even the better meta still makes for painful games.