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Looks like the inevitable happened and the Supreme Court told Coleman to pack it in and go home

MN will soon have its 2 senators again, giving the Dem's a Filibuster proof majority.

Now Minnesotans can get on to worrying about important things like whether or not Favre will come to the Vikings.

Although I wouldn't say it's over until Pawlenty signs the certificate. I wouldn't put it past Norm to appeal to federal courts. But I guess I couldn't blame him, since the alternative is letting Franken go to Washington. There's a reason why Obama won handily here in MN, while Franken (maybe) won by a slight margin. And it's not because Coleman is wildly popular...

Joke:

Why is Al Franken going to be holding a seance this weekend?

To be thanking the people who voted for him!

(There were more votes cast than there were actual people who showed up to the polls... in case you didn't get the joke.)

I might get it except for...whats a seance?

It's to contact dead people, suggesting that the vote was stuffed with illegal ballots, e.g. from registrants who are actually dead now.

If it was Illinois I'd say it was an even bet.  This is a little more like Washington state a few years back, where you just keep counting until you get the result you want.

But then, everybody thinks it's fixed when it's not "their guy" who wins.

I get it. Joke is funny.

Ahhhh, politics......

On a related note, Kevin Youkilis passed Mark Texieria in All-Star voting for AL First Basmen, even though he is mired in a horrible slump. Clearly my fellow Red Sox fans have manipulated the system. You know something is wrong when Ted Williams casted one of the votes, since there couldn't possibly be another T.W. anywhere in Red Sox Nation.

 

Just as there's a reason why in his three state wide campaigns, Norm Coleman lost to a former professional wrestler, barely beat a dead guy, and lost to a comedian.

Maybe we really are part of MN... our governor position has been filled by a very similar list of people...

If you want to believe the process was tainted, go ahead, but realize that the Coleman lawyers disagree with you,

So let me see if I understand your statement correctly.  Coleman's lawyers sued over the election results so they could go to court and argue to the judges that the election process was complete and correct?

I think it should be noted Justin Morneau has a higher OPS+ than both Youk and Tex. I guess the all-star game can't handle our small-market players....

Justin Who? ...... From Minnesota? ......

Wait, isn't that The Guardian? I think he was disqualified from All-Star voting because his 2007 Natz T2 deck was OP'd.

This is a little more like Washington state a few years back, where you just keep counting until you get the result you want.

Prove it. The entirety of the post-election proceedings are available on the web, so go point our where Minnesota election officials kept counting until they got the results they wanted. You have made a statement of fact, and all the evidence you could possibly require to prove your claim is available, so please prove your claim.

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on June 30, 2009, 05:30:36 PM

If you want to believe the process was tainted, go ahead, but realize that the Coleman lawyers disagree with you,

So let me see if I understand your statement correctly.

My argument is simple. You made a claim and I am trying to get you to provide evidence for it.

Coleman's lawyers sued over the election results so they could go to court and argue to the judges that the election process was complete and correct?

Here's a snippet from the oral argument...

Justice Paul Anderson: "Is there any evidence of any fraud, any favoritism, or anything other than the election officials in Minnesota tried to do the best job possible to apply the law?"

Joe Friedberg (Coleman lead attorney): "Absolutely not, and there's no voter fraud, there's no election fraud."

Just to make my argument painfully clear... You claimed that the Senate election involved officials who kept counting until they got the results they wanted. The lead attorney for team Coleman says the there is absolutely no evidence of favoritism in the process. In other words, you are free to believe the system was tainted if you want, but the Coleman lawyers disagree with you.

On a more philosophical and hypothetical note, the wisened Democrat shouldn't even be proud that his party has such an overwhelming majority!

To be a consistent conservative, I wouldn't even be happy if the Republicans held such a landslide of seats in the senate while having a conservative president. This imbalance, regardless of the party in control, is just that: An Imbalance! Thomas Jefferson warned against boiling politics down to only two parties... he would have shivered to see only one with so much control in politics. The give and take, the debate, and the thoughtful checks and balances don't matter one bit if one party has so much control over the executive and legislative branches.

If I were a Democrat, I would most certainly be frustrated with my party as it cheers on a political realm without appropriate boundaries and mindful conflict. Political conflict is good in and of itself. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Amazing that you posted that much and never answered my question.

I did answer it.  The Coleman lawyers did not go to court because they felt the process was tainted. When specifically asked if there was fraud or favoritism in the process, they answered no.

If your sarcasm was intended to ascertain why team Coleman went to court, that is relatively simple. They went to court in an attempt to get enough additional ballots counted to overcome Al Franken's 312 vote lead. Their legal problem was that the ballots they wanted counted were not legally cast.

Sadly, it's not even surprising (much less amazing) that you decide to besmirch the MN election process with precisely zero evidence to back up your claims.

If I were a Democrat, I would most certainly be frustrated with my party as it cheers on a political realm without appropriate boundaries and mindful conflict. Political conflict is good in and of itself. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I not sure what you mean by "appropriate boundaries." I will admit to being a little disheartened that the Republican party is in such a sad state that it cannot (or chooses not to) put forward substantive policy proposals to act as a counter to Democratic policy proposals.