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Offline TechnoEthicist

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After four boxes....
« on: October 01, 2009, 12:33:43 PM »
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96 packs of TeP gave us:
1 Complete Set
1 Set missing 2 cards (Divination and Destructive Sin)
1 Set missing 8 cards (Divination, Destructive Sin, A Solider's Prayer, Woman at the Well, Gomer, Philistine Garrison, High Places, Herod Agrippa II)

about 600 rares

and this breakdown of URs
Apostles
Guardian of Your Souls-5
Wall of Protection- 5
Unholy Writ- 4
Thirty Pieces of Silver-2
Burial Shroud-4
Emperor Nero-6
Saul/Paul-3
Household Idols-4
Three Nails-1
Pierced Heart-3
Crucify Him- 5
Great Mourning-5
Angry Mob- 10
Ship to Cyprus-1
Casting Lots-2
Satan’s Folly-2

Patriarchs
Destruction of Nehushtan-1
Leviathan-4
Abram/Abraham-3
A New Beginning-2
Joseph in Prison-3
Prosperity-2
Moses and Elders-1
Love at First Sight-4
Battering Ram-2
Siegeworks-3

and 10 NT Only LS

I think we got our money's worth  ;D
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 12:46:18 PM »
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any donations to the "Caleb is trying to build a philistine deck" fund?  ;D I have alot of cards for trade :-D
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 01:50:14 PM »
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Hey,

Have any of the people that sell singles updated their price lists for apostles and partriarchs rares and ultra rares since TexP came out?  You definitely got your money's worth based on the pre-TexP values of the ultra rares but post-TexP values for the ultra rares should be a far cry from the pre-TexP values.

10 cards short of three complete sets out of 196 cards (only 16 more than three complete sets) is a nice close to even distribution.  Much, much better than priests :)  What's the greatest quantity you got of any TexP card?  Did you get 5 of any of them?

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 01:51:56 PM »
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Not necessarily. Although the laws of supply and demand will still be at work, although the supply has become greater, the demand has remained the same, and people will always need stuff.

~Marti
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 02:04:09 PM »
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Yes, my prices have been adjusted due to new influx of Apostles and Patriarchs for the low end rares/ultras. The high end are around same price (a couple of dollars less). We had 10 Kirs, 8 Salomes, 6 Centurion at Capernaums, 7 or 8 Ahazs, etc.

Also consider in the distribution I traded for about 40-50 various TeP before opening, which could impact the statistics...
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 02:39:48 PM »
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Nice! How many grapes and Mayhems?
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 02:51:07 PM »
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3 Grapes, 4 Mayhems, many more to get :P
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 02:59:21 PM »
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Hey,

Quote from: The Marti on October 01, 2009, 01:51:56 PM
Not necessarily. Although the laws of supply and demand will still be at work, although the supply has become greater, the demand has remained the same, and people will always need stuff.

If the demand remains constant and the supply increases the price will fall, always.  How much it falls depends on the elasticity of demand.  Of course, Redemption is an adequately small market that general economic rules won't perfectly apply.

Before TexP you could get 1 new apostles rare or ultra rare for $3.  After TexP you can get 4 new apostles rares or ultra rares for $5.  So the price per card went from $3 to $1.25, a decrease of over 50%.  Also, the other cards in TexP (namely the two TexP cards and the patriarchs rares) are move valuable than the other cards in an apostles pack so the drop in value of an apostles rare or ultra rare is even more than the $3 to $1.25 ratio suggests.

So the way I look at it, the value of an apostles rare or ultra rare to the average player dropped by over half when TexP came out.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 05:29:01 PM »
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Quote from: SirNobody on October 01, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
So the way I look at it, the value of an apostles rare or ultra rare to the average player dropped by over half when TexP came out.
That is assuming demand remains constant, which it won't. The game is growing in size, new players are joining. The newer sets are encouraging players to use older cards. Both of these things increase demand.

I think most/all of us can agree prices will drop, but not by half.
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 05:46:38 PM »
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I'm still waiting for SirNobody's Half-Price Sale thread....
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 05:52:02 PM »
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I think another thing to consider is that as people obtain more of the Apostles URs you find in many decks, (Writ, GoyS, WoP, Shroud) they are building more decks, not necessarily trading or selling those cards thus the supply isn't increasing quite as much.
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 06:20:41 PM »
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Hey,

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on October 01, 2009, 05:46:38 PM
I'm still waiting for SirNobody's Half-Price Sale thread....

I imagine that thread will show up about a week after SirNobody's Full-Price thread (can't have half of something that doesn't exist now can you?)

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2009, 07:29:34 PM »
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I was hoping you would just go half of Lawfuldog's prices.  ;)
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 09:10:32 AM »
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I think mine may have been lower than ben's last month when I did my texp ultra's sell off.
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Re: After four boxes....
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 10:32:50 AM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on October 01, 2009, 05:52:02 PM
I think another thing to consider is that as people obtain more of the Apostles URs you find in many decks, (Writ, GoyS, WoP, Shroud) they are building more decks, not necessarily trading or selling those cards thus the supply isn't increasing quite as much.
I know for a fact that is happening here.  I know of at least 5 players who have added a deck or more to their arsenal since the TexP release.  If you have another GoYS, Destruction, Wall, Unholy Writ, NT Soul, and a new theme that looks fun to try, it is difficult to pass up building another deck.  At our last tournament, 2 players checked in 2 decks. These two players had never checked in more than one deck before.
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