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I'm tired of all this talk that it might be Two-Face; it can't, because he did in fact die. First off, he fell more than "five feet", it was more like twenty, and (if my memory serves correctly) it was on pavement. Second, a funeral was held was held for Harvey Dent, and I'm entirely sure everyone in this debate knows he's Two-Face; it wouldn't take too much for them to make it a closed-casket and let him rest in peace. Suffice to say, there's no way he's coming back, period. It can't be Scarecrow either, if my memory is correct (I was a bit confused on what exactly happened) he was killed in one of the opening scenes; I don't believe he was merely captured.

Riddler is the best option in my opinion.

NOT Riddler. Riddler would just be odd. they could have done a Riddler in the first one, and then Joker in the third, but don't follow Joker with Riddler. DC failed with making Riddler.

Two-Face did die about a million times in the comics... but I still say he's dead

and yes, scarecrow died

The only way Riddler would work with this new protrayal is to make him dark and twisted - something they did with Joker already. I agree, it needs to be someone else.

Riddler was twisted. He rigged an amusment park with deadly weapons and bad puns. What could be more twisted?
Losers ahead

Joker rigged a boat with deadly weapons + bad puns

Two face: dead
Joker: won't be a big villain again
scarecrow: showed up and got pwned in both movies, so no
riddler: Maybe... I don't think this would be too bad.
bain: (if this is the guy I am thinking about that uses drugs to become as strong as the Hulk) would be okay, but I would vote no. He is too big and isn't the best choice for a realistic batman.
Penguin: I would say no, but he definititely might appear since he is like in the top three classic villains
Mr. Freeze: Yes. I would say he is the best villain and has a pretty dark vengefull story of his own. Would work well with the plot and riddler.

If Mr. Freeze and Riddler became the villains then that would be great. Riddler as the brains and then Mr. Freeze as the person that batman really has to to contend with physically. Would be a great team.

1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.

In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.

Also, it's comic books.  No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben.  Except now Bucky's alive.  And Jason Todd, also.  And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.

Conspiracy theory #4128

The mayor ends up becoming Riddler.

Just a thought, no real basis.

Discuss.

 

Quote from: The Schaef on July 26, 2008, 01:37:50 AM

Quote from: Alex-CB on July 25, 2008, 12:56:11 PM

1. He died.
2. They held a funeral for him.
3. You don't hold a funeral for someone who isn't dead.

In the opening segment of You Only Live Twice, Bond was "killed" and they had a "funeral", and then he spent the entire rest of the film shooting bad guys.

Also, it's comic books.  No one stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben.  Except now Bucky's alive.  And Jason Todd, also.  And Uncle Ben has made an alternate-universe appearance.

True. No one stays dead in comics.But you don't hold a funeral for someone as important as Harvey Dent was with out a body. If anyone even tries to say "Oh, Harvey Dent was just unconscious. He got up and ran off and the entire city held a funeral for him without his body." NO! With someone as important as Harvey Dent was they wouldn't have a funeral without his body.

Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.

Riddler was twisted. He rigged an amusment park with deadly weapons and bad puns. What could be more twisted?
Losers ahead

But it needs to be twisted from a different prospective. The Riddler and Joker would be just similar enough to make me question if it would be worth it.

I don't remember scarecrow dying.  Didn't batman just tie him up and drive off?

pretty sure his SUV or van or something blew up in one of the many awesome explosions in that movie. hospital anyone?

Yeah I didn't remember him dying.

Especially with the police commissoner knowing who Two-Face was. There's no way Harvey Dent can come back, he was buried and everything.

They didn't show this in the movie. They didn't show an open casket, a burial, nothing...
All they showed in the film, was a ceremony honoring Dent. That fall didn't kill him. Ever see Halloween? 

Edit:  Scarecrow did not die either

The real scarecrow wasnt even in the movie.

No he was not.

Notice he was not in Glasses. Batman also comments that he doesn't want to see those guys out again, refering to both the fake batmen and the fake scarecrow, who are next to each other.

I know, I am commenting that though.

It wasn't the same actor either. I guess Rachel wasn't in the second movie either.