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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #100 on: May 24, 2010, 08:54:04 AM »
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What would happen if I developed an anti-Highway deck and you were playing something else?
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #101 on: May 24, 2010, 09:53:34 AM »
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I'm shocked and angry that this thing didn't fill up within hours of its posting....I complain because I want things to get better, but it seems like we're in the minority there.
You may complain because you want things to get better.  I actually do stuff to try to make things get better.  The reason I haven't (and won't) sign this petition is because I have already been working behind the scenes to try to come up with a process that will formalize the process of ruling changes here on the boards, and I don't want a petition to derail these efforts.  Petitions tend to come across as combative and lead to excessive dissension, which is NOT going to help the cause.

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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #102 on: May 24, 2010, 10:00:35 AM »
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Actions speak louder than words!  Glad to see someone with connections is doing something.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #103 on: May 24, 2010, 10:15:16 AM »
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #104 on: May 24, 2010, 10:44:06 AM »
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Petitions tend to come across as combative and lead to excessive dissension, which is NOT going to help the cause.

I disagree.  I Think people can express their disatisfaction in a legitimate exercizre of free speech.  Sometimes the people in position dont know the full extent of the dissatisfaciton until people speak up. Of course with 5 signatures, it doesnt look like much dissatisfaciton so why be afraid?

I think it is unfortunate that you have been scared into holding a view (that you claim you dont actually hold) simply out of fear.  It betrays a low opinion of those you are talking with that you fear that they would "punish" you for responsibly exercising a freedom guarranteed in our first ammendment.

To me this is an exercize in civics.  I have already won because I actually called for change and have presented options as a starting point.  That lots of people have not joined in and that no one with real power has bothered to adress them with me is not my fault.  I seem my job as one who calls attention to a percieved injustice and seeks some remediation.\

You claim to be at the barganing table with those who count and have asked me to remove this thread.  I asked for some guarrantees which yo ufailed to provide.  It seems to me that you are doing just as much as I am and getting just as far.  So dont begrudge me my actions and I wont begrudge you  yours since we seem to be equally ineffective.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #105 on: May 24, 2010, 10:47:37 AM »
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Esther also petitioned the King in her book.
I don't think there's any "I won", both of you are taking action.  Claiming to beat someone who's on the same side as you only causes division.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #106 on: May 24, 2010, 10:54:38 AM »
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I fear nothing.  I have a high opinion of Rob and the playtesters.  I tried to answer your questions that you PM'd me.  I'm not claiming to "win" anything.  I'm not going to post on this thread anymore.

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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #107 on: May 24, 2010, 10:58:53 AM »
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I fear nothing.
Not even...R.O.U.S.?!

I'm not going to post on this thread anymore.
I dare you now. ;)

I would like to have a set and observable system of decision making, so I guess go ahead and sign me up....but I want to be #11! :)
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #108 on: May 24, 2010, 12:39:23 PM »
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My Conclusion: Why sign a petition to maintain a status quo that is in no danger of change?
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #109 on: May 24, 2010, 12:59:31 PM »
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and I don't want a petition to derail these efforts. 

Aren't you afraid that the petition will derail these efforts? If not, and since you have already claimed to agree in prinicple to what I am asking, Why do you not sign on and show your solidarity?

I would ask that you reconsider your decision not to post here anymore because a frank and open discussion is what we need.  Less spam and more real meat.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #110 on: May 24, 2010, 08:17:44 PM »
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Is this over,or is this topic going to get bumped for the rest of the year?

If so,just in advance :doh:.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #111 on: May 24, 2010, 09:50:58 PM »
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Aw, crud, my post isn't there!
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #112 on: May 24, 2010, 10:52:29 PM »
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Looking at the events of the past week or so, it seems fairly clear to me that some form of change in the process is necessary. As such, could you please add my name to the petition?

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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #113 on: May 25, 2010, 12:49:44 AM »
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ad me to it

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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #114 on: May 25, 2010, 07:53:30 AM »
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Wow, you actually put me at 11...:laugh:
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #115 on: May 25, 2010, 07:54:48 AM »
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There is now a Council of Elders, so to speak.

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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #116 on: May 25, 2010, 08:37:08 AM »
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Given the recent action by Cactus, I am locking this thread.  

Let us hope that specific guidelines are in place to ensure that rulings continue to come in a timely and organized fashion, but this is a step in the right direciton.  I applaued Cactus for their continued efforts to promote a favorable and positive playing evironment for all involved.
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