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Rare is the protection that stops your own characters from being discarded by your abilities.  Most things will stop opponent's abilities from discarding them.

Even if you have something the protects your other themes from discard (like High Priest's Palace), those characters are not legitimate targets for the random discard, and thus something that is able to be targeted (like, say, your other Mobs laid-down or played in previous turns) would bite the dust.

Oh okay I see.

Timothy and Barsabbus both protect heroes from yourself which being that Barsabbus is a green prophet and clay will have a few other green prophets, I can see ANB getting a bit ridiculous when you shuffle everything but your protected Heroes...

Neither of those characters will protect from ANB, since they protect from harm, which, if I'm remembering correctly, protects from other alignments (so a hero protected from harm can't be targeted by an evil or neutral card)

Quote from: ChristianSoldier on October 27, 2014, 11:21:21 PM

Quote from: KoalaKing on October 27, 2014, 11:12:45 PM

Timothy and Barsabbus both protect heroes from yourself which being that Barsabbus is a green prophet and clay will have a few other green prophets, I can see ANB getting a bit ridiculous when you shuffle everything but your protected Heroes...

Neither of those characters will protect from ANB, since they protect from harm, which, if I'm remembering correctly, protects from other alignments (so a hero protected from harm can't be targeted by an evil or neutral card)

Ah, I guess now that you say it I remember hearing something along those lines before. Is that the same with effect or is that protection from both alignments?

If a card is protected from effect is is protected from all effects, or something like that. At least that's what makes sense to me.

Isn't there also a clause that you can't be protected from/immune to yourself? Like Uzzah can still discard himself with Thaddeus' protection active, he just can't also discard an Artifact to pay the cost.

I'm pretty sure even if they didn't specify "harm" they wouldn't protect themselves from ANB if you played it on them in battle.

Not sure if this should stay here (if there's a suggestion for somewhere else it should go, I will move it there), but I at least stickied it so it can be seen.

Abigail + David + Hidden Treasures + Visions or other Side battle cards.

'The god of this World' - Should probably be called 'The God of this World' instead as that would make it consistent with all other card titles in terms of capitalization.  I understand why you would want to keep the word 'god' lowercase in this instance because of the implications of uppercase 'God', but the precedent has actually already been set with 'Men as Gods'.  If this is unacceptable please change the card name to something else.

'Missionary Ship' - Any reason this card plays to set aside?  Would make sense for it to be in play with the characters 'using' it to gain site access.

'Drunkenness' - As Redoubter stated this card is way too strong.  Even at the usual minimum of 3 cards at random it is probably too good.

'Shipwreck' - This card is also too strong.   Negating and underdecking a Fortress OR site in play or set aside area as a dominant (therefore CBN and can be played at pretty much any time) seems like it might be too good on its own because of the almost unstoppable hole you can make with it to play an AoCP.  I see absolutely no reason for the secondary ability of deck or hand discard to be added on to this card.

'The god of this World' - Should probably be called 'The God of this World' instead as that would make it consistent with all other card titles in terms of capitalization.  I understand why you would want to keep the word 'god' lowercase in this instance because of the implications of uppercase 'God', but the precedent has actually already been set with 'Men as Gods'.  If this is unacceptable please change the card name to something else.

Men as Gods came out in Apostles. Later, The gods of Egypt came out in Patriarchs. So there is actually precedent for either capitalization of "god" when not referring to Jesus' father. If they want to leave "god" lowercase to signify a false god they have the right to.

I will admit the grammarian in me cringes every time I see it, but I understand the sentiment. And there are other things with worse grammar rule breaking in this game, haha.

Quote from: Kor on October 29, 2014, 12:44:33 AM

'The god of this World' - Should probably be called 'The God of this World' instead as that would make it consistent with all other card titles in terms of capitalization.  I understand why you would want to keep the word 'god' lowercase in this instance because of the implications of uppercase 'God', but the precedent has actually already been set with 'Men as Gods'.  If this is unacceptable please change the card name to something else.

Men as Gods came out in Apostles. Later, The gods of Egypt came out in Patriarchs. So there is actually precedent for either capitalization of "god" when not referring to Jesus' father. If they want to leave "god" lowercase to signify a false god they have the right to.

I will admit the grammarian in me cringes every time I see it, but I understand the sentiment. And there are other things with worse grammar rule breaking in this game, haha.

YOU FORGOT TO CAPITALIZE "FATHER"!

Seriously, if doesn't matter much, since no one will think that we are making god of This World into "God."

As I tried to imagine "Love" as a special ability, I kept coming back around to the idea of self sacrifice. Here are two different ways to approach that theme.

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Love - Multi TC Enhancement
Place on your human Hero: Each upkeep, you may decrease this hero 3/3 to increase a human of the same testament 3/3. Each opponent may draw 1.

Concept: Loves means giving of yourself to offer the encouragement and strength that others need.
Game: Imagine characters like Paul or Peter as a 4/4 while making their Creeping Deceiver a 7/11 that you can interrupt.

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Love - Clay TC Enhancement
Place on your Clay Hero: when hero enters battle, select a Lost Soul. If it is targeted by your opponent, you may discard this hero instead and add your NT hero to battle.

Concept: Love led these followers and missionaries to give their lives to see the gospel carried to the lost.
Game: Cards like DoU would shuffle all other souls, and Uzzah would protect all other souls. But the soul selected by Love would remain untargetted if the player chooses to discard the hero instead (and then add another hero to battle).

I love both of these ideas! Way to go in seeking for the Biblical application 

Of the two, I would vote for the first one although I like both!

Red Warrior what happens if I place love on King David and get Moses jacked up to 17/17 by himself?

Red Warrior what happens if I place love on King David and get Moses jacked up to 17/17 by himself?

Josiah,
Christian Martyr, Grapes of Wrath, CBP Lost Soul, Balaam's Disobedience, Confusion of Mind, Unholy Writ, Magic Charms, Tenants Kill The Son and all the CBP evil enhancements that we've been getting since angel wars lol (especially in Disciples and The Early Church).

In fairness though, adding "an opponent's character" might not be a bad idea. Not so much to restrict the power as to bolster the theme of "giving". I'd probably drop the "same testament" bit to make it more useful.

Love - Multi TC Enhancement
Place on your human Hero: Each upkeep, you may decrease this hero 3/3 to increase an opponent's human 3/3. Each opponent may draw 1.

I think it's because they aren't necessarily from Corinth, they just helped start the church there, so they're not technically Corinthians.