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Re: Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2009, 05:36:41 PM »
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Anyone else see the Chinook Helicopter in the sky...?  8)


I didn't know there were helicopters in the Bible?   :police:

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2009, 05:40:53 PM »
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I didn't know Saint Patrick was in the Bible, .... or Salvation Army uniforms, .... or certain Emperors..., or angels with light sabres and hoverboards...
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2009, 05:45:06 PM »
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Regardless...

I didn't know Jesus was coming back with helicopters in the background.

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2009, 05:50:48 PM »
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I just see a wisp of dark clouds. Have you taken a Rorschach test lately?
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2009, 05:50:52 PM »
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You didn't? Haven't you ever read Left Behind, the other 7 books of the Bible?
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2009, 05:56:52 PM »
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You didn't? Haven't you ever read Left Behind, the other 7 books of the Bible?

Actually, I think there were 12 books in the series, and some prequels if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2009, 06:00:11 PM »
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its actually jesus' recon helicopter.
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2009, 06:08:13 PM »
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Left Behind, Tibulation Force, Assassins, Mark of the Beast(?), Armageddon, Indwelling, Glorious Appearing...what am I forgetting?
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2009, 06:14:18 PM »
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Nicolae (3), Soul Harvest (4), Apollyon (5), Desecration (9), The Remnant (10).
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2009, 06:14:42 PM »
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Left Behind, Tibulation Force, Assassins, Mark of the Beast(?), Armageddon, Indwelling, Glorious Appearing...what am I forgetting?

Wow...a lot

Left Behind
Tribulation Force
Nicole
Soul Harvest
Apollyon
Assassions
Indwelling
The Mark
Desecration
The Remnant
Armageddon
Glorious Appearing

Three prequels and a sequel (plus all the kids books).

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2009, 06:15:39 PM »
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quite a few. nicolae, soul harvest, apollyon, desecration, the remnant, the rising, the regime, the rapture, and kingdom come.
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2009, 06:22:20 PM »
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Ah, gotcha. It's been forever since I read them. I liked them, good writing and character development, but I never read Kingdom Come because it sounded stupid.
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2009, 09:38:35 PM »
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I just see a wisp of dark clouds. Have you taken a Rorschach test lately?

Compare the ODDLY dark "blob" in the sky to this:


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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2009, 01:50:59 AM »
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question, if both players are tied in lost soul count, would that mean they both have the 'most' lost souls?

Based on the way Eli the Priest et al are played, the answer should be no.

Eli searches for an Artifact.  Did you mean Jethro?  And what other cards are you referencing with et al?  Plagued with Diseases is the only other card I can find that would possibly work in a tie (most others say "fewer" or "more", which wouldn't be true in the case of a tie), or maybe I'm searching for the wrong words.




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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2009, 03:45:32 AM »
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I don't think there's any need for an evil Dominant, as we already have one that can't be Discarded by Desecrate the Temple. Wait, this is a good Dominant? Nowai.
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2009, 07:10:08 AM »
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Eli searches for an Artifact.  Did you mean Jethro?

I did.  Fixed.

And what other cards [besides Plagued With Diseases] are you referencing with et al?

Nicanor, Timon, Dan, Parmenas, and Wickedness Abounds also are triggered by a player having "more of" something than another player.

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2009, 09:58:53 AM »
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8 is more than 7, and 4 is not more than 4.  But if the score is 4 to 4 to 2 to 1, don't two players have "the most" rescued souls?

In other words, I think that "is more than" is not the same as "is the greatest."
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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2009, 12:29:21 PM »
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This is a conversation from very shortly before we wrapped development:

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A player tied for the most OT Heroes cannot draw a card with Jetro.  Similarly, a player tied for the most Lost Souls would still be allowed to use this.  Just want to make sure we’re all clear on this.
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That is fine.  I just want a 2nd or 3rd place player to get the chance to rescue again.  Otherwise, all multi-player decks will use this as a defensive stop during a battle between 2 other players. 
 

It was my understanding that this was known and stipulated as being correct, so that I could have an answer when the question inevitably arose.

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2009, 12:49:11 PM »
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Still, the only real precedent is Jethro, and Jethro qualifies what happens in ties in his case (since the ability says the "player" not "players" with the most OT heroes).  So, that is the only basis for the ruling.  I am not opposed to the ruling.  I'd honestly be happy either way.  Just clarifying that it is based on how one card is played.

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2009, 12:52:06 PM »
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I don't separate the qualifier from the definition, just as I don't separate the "two or more" qualifier from the definition of "lone Hero".  In fact, the 10th Anniversary decks set a precedent for using parenthetical text to further explain what naturally happens with the stated abilities.

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Re: TexP Article #4 - Holy Dominants Grape Ape!!!
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »
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I think it comes down to whether "the most" means "more than everyone else" or "the greatest number" (since 4 is the greatest number in a 4-4-3-2 situation, a person with 4 has the most). It could be interpreted either way, so I think the situation might require a Rob ruling.
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