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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Daniel on July 15, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
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I was excited when I saw them and came here to post them but you beat me to it!
For those that didn't see the set on Facebook, here's the gist on False Prophet's TexP icon: "Note that the False Prophet card has a different icon. It has a Treasures icon because the card in not part of the early church theme though included in the mix. There are a couple of these in Phase 1. They are special chase cards if you will."
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I, for one, can't wait until only purple and clay decks are viable. The Old Testament is boring anyway!
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agreed
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What was wrong with the artwork on the old Rhoda? That would have been much better.
For those that didn't see the set on Facebook, here's the gist on False Prophet's TexP icon: "Note that the False Prophet card has a different icon. It has a Treasures icon because the card in not part of the early church theme though included in the mix. There are a couple of these in Phase 1. They are special chase cards if you will."
It would be nice if these special cards had an UR border to distinguish them from the other cards and actually make them feel like they are harder to find.
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Why is The False Prophet orange?
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Probably because his power comes from the Beast. It's similar to the reasoning behind Damsel With a Spirit of Divination.
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I really want to know what Widows' Tables does. I wonder if it's like Musicians' Chambers.
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I wonder if the 'chase' cards really are chase and harder to find.
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I was wondering if NoA and TFP are indicating the possibility of an unconditional CBN convert card, which the game sorely needs to keep the convert ability viable.
I guess Chamber of Angels will be useful to recur AuTO Angelic Visitor. ;)
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I guess Chamber of Angels will be useful to recur AuTO Angelic Visitor. ;)
Yes Chamber of Angels will recur Angelic Visitor, but if you have Chamber out and use Angelic Visitor's self discard ability it will be insteaded to Chamber and he won't be able to search your deck.
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Is it just me, or is The False Prophet worded oddly?
"Negate good Convert."
Shouldn't it be "Negate good Convert abilities." or "Negate good Conversion"?
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Is it just me, or is The False Prophet worded oddly?
"Negate good Convert."
Shouldn't it be "Negate good Convert abilities." or "Negate good Conversion"?
I understand that thought, but it is probably that way for two reasons: First, it is already a very long ability. Second, it means the same thing.
You don't necessarily need the word "abilities" for that to be implied, it is fine how it is. Anything that is good and converts qualifies as "good Convert".
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It isn't grammatically correct and bugs the crap out of me though.
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New redemption lingo:
Negate convert.
Discard any card in.
Holder may reveal.
Search deck for a.
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It isn't grammatically correct and bugs the crap out of me though.
I'd be less bugged by it if it said "Negate good converts." Plural makes it at least make more grammatical sense, and not having "convert" randomly capitalized since it normally isn't (and also isn't on another card in the exact same set) would make it passable imo. Would still prefer the standardized "convert abilities," though.[/grammar nazi]
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The main issue I have is that it creates confusion when there's no need to have it. People who aren't on the boards get this card, and assume it's a misprint. Does it negate convert abilities? Convert enhancements? Heroes with convert abilities?
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I think it should say "Negate good Conversion...". That would move "in" down a line and possibly "from" which would make it look more even anyway.
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I think it should say "Negate good Conversion...". That would move "in" down a line and possibly "from" which would make it look more even anyway.
I would still just prefer to have "abilities" in there, but I'm way more okay with this than I am with what's printed.
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I think it should say "Negate good Conversion...". That would move "in" down a line and possibly "from" which would make it look more even anyway.
That would also work. Don't get me wrong, I am beyond pleased that we're getting such a large set of new cards, I just can't help but nitpick, lol.
I would still just prefer to have "abilities" in there, but I'm way more okay with this than I am with what's printed.
Same.
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So we have the grammatically incorrect False Prophet, and the offensive Judaizers. Who are the illiterate racists that are making the new set anyway? :o ;)
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Minnesota has been progressive lately so we know it's not them. Isn't Rob from Virginia? That'd do it.
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So this is somewhat of a tangent but I since the new set has come up again as a topic, and I didn't say this last time, I want to point out how great the new set is for booster since that was a concern people had had for it. The new packs have 3 FooF, 3 RoA, and 3 kings, which are incredibly good card pools to have for booster, even if every single card you get from the new set is worthless for booster. And the odds of every card you get from the new set being worthless is very low, as there are sites and evil cards you have to draft from even if all the good cards are worthless to you as clay cards. And even if you are forced to pick a clay card, sometimes just having a hero is worth a lot.
If anything, I'd say the new packs have the best card pool for booster of anything in quite a long time, and that I am super psyched to play some booster next season.
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The one thing I'll say is that the new set does give purple a disproportionate boost (har!) in Booster and Sealed. In theory, it shouldn't really matter, but given that purple is already one of the stronger brigades, it does focus the category slightly.
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Does Speech allow you to negate TC enhancements?
I like the Fruit theme. Looking forward to seeing the rest of them.
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Why is Joy not a simple 7/0 enhancement?
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Why is Joy not a simple 7/0 enhancement?
Because then you could recur it with Ethiopian Treasurer.
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Why is Joy not a simple 7/0 enhancement?
Because then you could recur it with Ethiopian Treasurer.
Perhaps more importantly, it's a permanent increase and none of the other Fruits seem to have numbers.
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Coming of the Spirit to give Thaddeus Clay brigade, Joy to give him 7/0 and make his ability CBN. Noice.
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Speech is a nice way to stop Belshazzar's Banquet and similar Lost Soul protectors.
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Why is Joy not a simple 7/0 enhancement?
Because then you could recur it with Ethiopian Treasurer.
Perhaps more importantly, it's a permanent increase and none of the other Fruits seem to have numbers.
Making Joy a 7/0 enhancement would not accomplish the increase effect, unless it was a weapon. Placed cards do not contribute any abilities/numbers they have to the card they are placed on.
It also doesn't appear to be a permanent increase. The colon (:) on the card is shorthand for "While placed," so the increase would fall off if Joy is removed from the Hero (much like the protection and CBN-granting part).
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It also doesn't appear to be a permanent increase. The colon (:) on the card is shorthand for "While placed," so the increase would fall off if Joy is removed from the Hero (much like the protection and CBN-granting part).
In case anyone was wondering if this is an actual rule, it is:
Clarifications
An ongoing ability paired with a place ability has an implied condition of “while the placed card remains in the placed
location.”
A colon (:) following a place ability is interpreted as: “while this card remains placed in its original location.”
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It also doesn't appear to be a permanent increase. The colon (:) on the card is shorthand for "While placed," so the increase would fall off if Joy is removed from the Hero (much like the protection and CBN-granting part).
In case anyone was wondering if this is an actual rule, it is:
Clarifications
An ongoing ability paired with a place ability has an implied condition of “while the placed card remains in the placed
location.”
A colon (:) following a place ability is interpreted as: “while this card remains placed in its original location.”
Colons look a little different than I thought they did. ;)
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I heard Thaddius will be played differently depending on what server you're playing on.
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This thread is now about Naxx.
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This thread is now about Naxx.
Honestly since the released a bunch of card previews today, its kinda fitting.
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Alright guys, I may not moderate this section, but let's try to keep this on-topic. You can post all you want about HS in the video games section. :P
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I find it ironic that we already need a ruling on colons and cards before the card is even out and playable yet. Haha
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I find it ironic that we already need a ruling on colons and cards before the card is even out and playable yet. Haha
The colon "ruling" has existed for several sets, it's not new with this card. We were just clarifying that the increase was not, in fact, permanent. :P
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Yes, as excited I am about Naxx, keep this on topic and talk about colons instead. :p
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Colons are typically around 5 feet long and 3 inches in diameter.
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I thought Colons were banned? :o
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what game is that?
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what game is that?
It is a computer card game that several Redemption players play. To keep the topic from being derailed again, I will not mention it here. However, you will find its name in the Video Game section of the boards.
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Speech is a nice way to stop Belshazzar's Banquet and similar Lost Soul protectors.
That will be cool if it works like that. Is there any major differences between this card and covenant of noah in effectiveness? Can these cards stop DOU or I thought cove of noah couldnt work vs DOU?
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Speech is a nice way to stop Belshazzar's Banquet and similar Lost Soul protectors.
That will be cool if it works like that. Is there any major differences between this card and covenant of noah in effectiveness? Can these cards stop DOU or I thought cove of noah couldnt work vs DOU?
Covenant with Noah (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Covenant_of_Noah_(Pa)) negates an enhancement under default targeting. It cannot target DOU by the time it resolves, because it is out of play. Speech negates last enhancement, so it can target out of play.
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I thought they had done away with that distinction? Or is that only in special initiative?
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I thought they had done away with that distinction? Or is that only in special initiative?
Special Initiative is different. You can target Invoking Terror with any old negate during SI, but not without SI if it goes to bottom of deck. You can, however, target it with a "negate last".