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The other option would be to add a comment box to every question. I think for our purposes it may be beneficial to also have at least one question where the answer is not one of the choices. Every question could have the fifth choice of "None of the Above," just to keep people honest.

Thanks for volunteering Westy. Others willing to help?

I think that is a good idea YMT.

Most websites are going to cost $20/mo to get features we want otherwise we have a limited number of questions per quiz and a limited number of individuals who can take them within a given period of time. Do others think that Rob would go for this? $240 a year to help improve judging?

Kirk

It seems silly to spend money before this has proven its effectiveness.

I think $240 is a steal to have Judges become officially certified. The cost can also possibly be offset by a small increase to the tournament fee application, which is where Judges will be spending the most time anyways.

It seems silly to spend money before this has proven its effectiveness.

This method has proven successful in other CCGs, so I would not disregard that experience.

The cost can also possibly be offset by a small increase to the tournament fee application, which is where Judges will be spending the most time anyways.

Increasing the hosting fees will only decrease the number of tournaments. I push past my budget as it is. We should brainstorm other fundraising ideas.

This method has proven successful in other CCGs, so I would not disregard that experience.

The success doesn't necessarily translate to Redemption because it's a much smaller game, though. I'm just trying to offer a different point of view ; a lot of projects that are discussed on the boards never make it off the ground.

Have we looked into different tiers of judges? I think that may be useful when two judges disagree.

I think at the very least we need some kind of Head Judge/Community Manager in charge of this proposed Judge program. Someone that is not only very knowledgeable in all aspects of judging, but can also build a foundation and support any current Judges and bring in new ones.

Quote from: Captain Kirk on August 15, 2012, 01:30:49 PM

I am continuing to research free quiz creation options. So far I think http://kwiksurveys.com may be our best bet. Cannot do randomization of questions from a larger pool though.

Even with some of the paid websites, many of the websites do not allow for a randomization of questions on the test from a larger pool of questions. Many of them will put the questions in random order or randomize the answer order but they will have all of the same answers.

Kirk

We could just create a second quiz on the same subject. If they fail the first, they can try the second at a later time.

Good idea - I will start working on questions and hope to have some working quizzes in the coming week or two. Can you PM me your questions when you make them? Thanks.

Kirk

Just hope the questions are not like this:

I'm not sure what you are needing to pay for. It can easily exist on the Cactus site/server. The quiz itself can be built in PHP or something and submit a score to judge and Rob's emails. If anything happened to goof things up third party, it could disrupt several tournaments. From another thread, we know at least a couple members can do this (or better). If my vision wasn't so goofy, I would whip something up on a test server.

That being said, an exam will just cause frustration if there is no accurate, standardized, and regularly updated place for rulings. If a new judge comes into the exam having just read the rulebook and REG, they may not pass. There needs to be one simple resource or document to study, as reading though thousands of old rulings on the message boards (many of which are wrong, outdated, or contradictory) isn't practical.

Quote from: Ironica on August 16, 2012, 03:23:56 PM

Just hope the questions are not like this:

OK, that is just twisted.  Naturally randomly getting the right answer on a 4 choice question is 25%.  But since half of the answers in this case are "25%", the chance of randomly answering this question right is 50%.  But now that there is only answer "B" is correct, the probability drops back to 25%, and the cycle starts all over again.

That's just mean

When you select "50%", you're no longer guessing randomly, so B is the answer regardless.

Has anyone actually talked to Rob about this? We're making all these decisions and we don't even know if he'll go for all this.

Has anyone actually talked to Rob about this? We're making all these decisions and we don't even know if he'll go for all this.

I have not asked Rob if he would be in favor of a judge's test. I figured it made sense to throw out some ideas on the boards first and then put together some sample questions and then put it in Rob's hands.

I think that those who are interested in being involved with the REG, such as Redoubter, should reach out to Rob and ask if they can help. I am not sure who actually updated it for the 2.0 version - was it Mike Berkenpas?

Kirk