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There was a cannel abut redemption (it was how I learned how to play) made by someone called SignoftheStar. It was very helpful, but I think it was discontinued years ago.

They have a cannel called "combo. Corner" that is for new and old players alike!

That's the problem though, most of the Redemption players are too tied up in having just 1 forum, and in all honesty, it would be a big PR move to have something like a YT Account that can do more showing then telling as well as get others into the game and showing off the various theme's etc. Plus showing gameplay of decks is more exciting as well. My plan is less of "metagame discussion" while there will be a bit there most of it would be just "theme discussion", especially since in general most decks have good capability to take on a fair amount of the meta and not be slaughtered like in other games like Yugioh or Vanguard.

In short, I look at it as there needs to be some place outside of the forums that Redemption can be talked about and shown to new players, and it can also be used to better explain new rules and discuss new packs as well as other fun discussions. Admittedly because Redemption doesn't as often, the discussions will be a bit further spread out so that the content isn't used up as quickly.

Go for it, but don't expect any interest or any return.

Of course, that statement sums up Redemption as a whole. 

What can be accomplished via a channel that can't be accomplished here on the forums? Things like meta and card discussion is best handled by the absolute best of the best (most, if not all, of whom probably don't have the time or interest in something like that) or on a forum like this one. Pack openings can be cool, but anything aside from opening up Shipwreck is anti-climatic and boring.  On the whole, Redemption just doesn't have enough activity to justify trying to keep a channel working, and I'd rather any and all discussion be directed here, rather than externally.

Discoverability for starters. Ever since the link to these forums was removed from the redemption home page you basically have to know the forums exist and actively search for the link to get here. Youtube is an easy medium to find, and is deeply integrated with google (because they, you know, own it). If you google redemption card game, 3 youtube videos on  how to play are on the first page. These forums don't even show up.

Edit: I'm actually just now realizing, after nearly 2 years of complaining about this, that the redemption homepage wasn't changed. The redemption section on the cactus home page just links directly to the redemption store page instead of the actual redemption home page. Either way the link is comparatively buried now.

If you think a youtube channel will do anything significant for growth of the Redemption community, you're wrong. That's not marketing. Pokemon is a significantly bigger game and there's only one decent quality youtube channel, and it still doesn't make a major impact other than getting people who already know the game to the next level.  Hearthstone didn't grow because of twitch; it was successful on twitch because it's a great game.

pokemon isn't dying and wizards doesn't even run it. Haven't for 13 years.

Again, that's what I've heard, but I'm not a fan of that game or do really anything with it.

If you don't play the game or do any research on it then maybe you shouldn't comment on it....

Isn't pokemon just a blatant ripoff of Redemption? I'm not a fan of pokemon or anything but didn't Redemption come first?

I like how pokemon is simpler, but it has to much coin tossing.

Quote from: LukeChips on March 04, 2015, 02:38:18 PM

Quote from: Daniel on March 04, 2015, 02:07:20 PM

Isn't pokemon just a blatant ripoff of Redemption? I'm not a fan of pokemon or anything but didn't Redemption come first?

I like how pokemon is simpler, but it has to much coin tossing.

Maybe we should figure out a way to add coin tossing to the overall Redemption mechanic. Maybe change the draw phase to be--"Toss a coin. If it comes up heads draw 6 cards, else draw no cards."

Adding coin tosses for every game action is a pretty good idea. It only increases the randomness by a negligible amount, and makes the rules much more consistent.

I think that a Redemption YouTube channel would be a great ministry opportunity too- I have heard of multiple people who have become Christian through the game, and I'm sure you all know some too. So the channel could have a consistent focus of connecting the game to the Word and the Gospel..that aspect alone makes this an exciting thought! As well as it would be really fun and helpful to have videos teaching the game, sharing brigade/theme overviews, and strategies for more advanced players. It could definitely greatly lessen the learning curve for new players and lead to greater competition nationally/internationally!

Just thinking more about this...it could be really cool if this was a community collaboration project! I'm still a relatively new player and average at best in terms of knowledge of the game and skill. And I know that there are some of the best Redemption players out there who come on these boards and would love to see Redemption grow as an outreach and as a game.

What if people did a video on their own area of specialty in the game? Travis could do a video on TLG and building your collection...Steven on trading...Dayne on the REG & errata...Chris on the national tournament...and whoever's great at Angels give an overview of the silver brigade, whoever rocks Philistines do a video about them, etc. I think that could be so awesome! It would also cut down drastically on the time until there would be a lot of content out there, because one person wouldn't have to do it all.