Author Topic: Re: Obama (Read 19192 times)

The Schaef · « **Reply #125 on:** January 09, 2011, 12:54:58 AM »

Quote from: JSB23 on January 09, 2011, 12:41:06 AM

The US isn't an Islamic nation

I see you didn't go back and look at the previous discussion. Obama once said that we are one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.

So if the US was not founded on The Islam (tm), and if the US cannot make any laws based on the Qu'ran, then how in the world can this statement of his be accurate?

JSB23 · « **Reply #126 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:58:01 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on January 09, 2011, 12:54:58 AM

Quote from: JSB23 on January 09, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
The US isn't an Islamic nation

I see you didn't go back and look at the previous discussion. Obama once said that we are one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.

So if the US was not founded on The Islam (tm), and if the US cannot make any laws based on the Qu'ran, then how in the world can this statement of his be accurate?

The statement is not correct, Obama said that to try and convince the peoples of the middle east that the US is not the devil

The Schaef · « **Reply #127 on:** January 09, 2011, 07:12:18 PM »

Quote from: JSB23 on January 09, 2011, 05:58:01 PM

The statement is not correct, Obama said that to try and convince the peoples of the middle east that the US is not the devil

I already know the statement is not correct, because there are over 50 countries on the planet with tens of millions of Muslims, comprising at least half their population. Muslims are about 1% of the US population.

The factual inaccuracy of it aside, your own father seemed to agree with me that his classification of our country as being Muslim in nature is correct. So what reason can you think of that the two of us and the president of the United States - three people of significant intelligence - would think that is a valid characterization, even if it doesn't match either of your two criteria?

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #128 on:** January 09, 2011, 09:08:30 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 09, 2011, 12:06:59 AM

Quote from: The Schaef on January 08, 2011, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 08, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
That's from the Treaty of Tripoli, a governmental piece from 1797 Schaef. Not my thoughts, Washington's government's thoughts.

Did you even read what I said in response?

Yes. I was responding that we are in no way a Christian Nation, even according to Washington's government, who is seen as the bastion of Christian founders.

You are right. However, much of our early history was highly influenced by Judeo-Christian ideology.

Quote from: JSB23 on January 07, 2011, 05:46:32 PM

Quote
Article III
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Technically, Wiccans, could make a valid argument that they should not be liable for human sacrifices during their rituals, since that would be limiting their freedom of religion.

The point is this article isn't neccessarily cut and dried. In many situations it is hard to tell which statements of the constitution should be given the trump card. In the situation above the contradictory staments are "prohibiting the free existence thereof" or ensuring "life liberty and the pursuit of happyness" of all individuals (including Wiccans).

Lozo777 · « **Reply #129 on:** January 09, 2011, 11:36:02 PM »

Obama stinks. Nuff said foo.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #130 on:** January 10, 2011, 11:21:01 AM »

If only I could find a character in the Bible with a name that sounds like Glenn Beck...just for fun.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #131 on:** January 10, 2011, 11:23:57 AM »

Glenn Beck
Ignores any card based on logic. Discard this card if Jon Stewart comes into play.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #132 on:** January 10, 2011, 04:38:05 PM »

I see that we have learned nothing from this weekend's shooting. FTR, I am no longer laughing at you guys. I have sincere sympathy for you, however.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #133 on:** January 10, 2011, 04:46:29 PM »

You don't think you contributed at all by laughing?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #134 on:** January 10, 2011, 04:49:36 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 04:46:29 PM

You don't think you contributed at all by laughing?

No.

browarod · « **Reply #135 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:16:24 PM »

....shooting?

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #136 on:** January 10, 2011, 05:37:03 PM »

Quote from: browarod on January 10, 2011, 05:16:24 PM

....shooting?

In Arizona. A Representative of Arizona was shot and 6 other people were killed, including a 9 year old girl.

EDITED: Had my numbers mixed up.

-C_S

SomeKittens · « **Reply #137 on:** January 10, 2011, 06:48:06 PM »

A sad tragedy, we held a prayer session in chapel today. However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #138 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:41:25 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 06:48:06 PM

However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

Exactly!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #139 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:45:04 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on January 10, 2011, 04:49:36 PM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
You don't think you contributed at all by laughing?

No.

Then you are in the same boat you think we are in.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #140 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 06:48:06 PM

A sad tragedy, we held a prayer session in chapel today. However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

I think, now you may or may not quote me on this, but I'd rather you not take my word for it, that it pertains to this discussion because the person that did the shooting allowed themselves to take their opinion on politics literally. i.e. they were very opinionated and passionate about their views and acted on them. So, others are just cautioning that things get politically heated on here some times, so you never know who's capable of doing extreme measures or who is being literal about some of their opinions. Again, that's the connection I see.

-C_S

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #141 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:48:57 PM »

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on January 10, 2011, 08:46:55 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
A sad tragedy, we held a prayer session in chapel today. However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

I think, now you may or may not quote me on this, but I'd rather you not take my word for it, that it pertains to this discussion because the person that did the shooting allowed themselves to take their opinion on politics literally. i.e. they were very opinionated and passionate about their views and acted on them. So, others are just cautioning that things get politically heated on here some times, so you never know who's capable of doing extreme measures or who is being literal about some of their opinions. Again, that's the connection I see.

-C_S

You see more clearly than I realized.

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 08:45:04 PM

Then you are in the same boat you think we are in.

Wrong again.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #142 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:50:14 PM »

Omission is no longer the same as commission then? I missed that memo.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #143 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:50:53 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 08:50:14 PM

Omission is no longer the same as commission then? I missed that memo.

Still wrong.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #144 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:51:32 PM »

Thanks for being so elucidating on the issue.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #145 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:52:08 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 08:51:32 PM

Thanks for being so elucidating on the issue.

You may never be able to be right about this.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #146 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:53:22 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 08:50:14 PM

Omission is no longer the same as commission then? I missed that memo.

My previous post explains why YMT has chosen not to participate:

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on January 10, 2011, 08:46:55 PM

I think, now you may or may not quote me on this, but I'd rather you not take my word for it, that it pertains to this discussion because the person that did the shooting allowed themselves to take their opinion on politics literally. i.e. they were very opinionated and passionate about their views and acted on them. So, others are just cautioning that things get politically heated on here some times, so you never know who's capable of doing extreme measures or who is being literal about some of their opinions. Again, that's the connection I see.

-C_S

-C_S

SomeKittens · « **Reply #147 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:55:39 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on January 10, 2011, 08:52:08 PM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 10, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Thanks for being so elucidating on the issue.

You may never be able to be right about this.

However, if his inability to be right comes from your refusal to fully explain yourself, the fault lies with you. The insinuation that those of us participating in this thread (with the obvious exception of you) are psychopathic wackos who prefer to solve their problems with bullets appalls me.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #148 on:** January 10, 2011, 08:58:12 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 08:55:39 PM

However, if his inability to be right comes from your refusal to fully explain yourself, the fault lies with you.

I just want to make sure that you guys know how you sound to the casual viewer.

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 08:55:39 PM

The insinuation that those of us participating in this thread (with the obvious exception of you) are psychopathic wackos who prefer to solve their problems with bullets appalls me.

Then you know now how appalling this whole thread became.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #149 on:** January 10, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on January 10, 2011, 08:58:12 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
However, if his inability to be right comes from your refusal to fully explain yourself, the fault lies with you.

I just want to make sure that you guys know how you sound to the casual viewer.

Quote from: SomeKittens on January 10, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
The insinuation that those of us participating in this thread (with the obvious exception of you) are psychopathic wackos who prefer to solve their problems with bullets appalls me.

Then you know now how appalling this whole thread became.

YMT, they're trying to suck you in... They WANT you to respond, stop encouraging them. =]

-C_S

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Author Topic: Re: Obama (Read 19192 times)

The Schaef

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