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Quote from: JSB23 on January 09, 2011, 12:41:06 AM

The US isn't an Islamic nation

I see you didn't go back and look at the previous discussion.  Obama once said that we are one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.

So if the US was not founded on The Islam (tm), and if the US cannot make any laws based on the Qu'ran, then how in the world can this statement of his be accurate?

The statement is not correct, Obama said that to try and convince the peoples of the middle east that the US is not the devil 

Quote from: The Schaef on January 08, 2011, 09:08:27 PM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 08, 2011, 08:38:31 PM

That's from the Treaty of Tripoli, a governmental piece from 1797 Schaef. Not my thoughts, Washington's government's thoughts.

Did you even read what I said in response?

Yes. I was responding that we are in no way a Christian Nation, even according to Washington's government, who is seen as the bastion of Christian founders.

You are right. However, much of our early history was highly influenced by Judeo-Christian ideology.

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Article III
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Technically, Wiccans, could make a valid argument that they should not be liable for  human sacrifices during their rituals, since that would be limiting their freedom of religion.

The point is this article isn't neccessarily cut and dried. In many situations it is hard to tell which statements of the constitution should be given the trump card. In the situation above the contradictory staments are "prohibiting the free existence thereof"  or ensuring "life liberty and the pursuit of happyness" of all individuals (including Wiccans).
 

If only I could find a character in the Bible with a name that sounds like Glenn Beck...just for fun.

I see that we have learned nothing from this weekend's shooting. FTR, I am no longer laughing at you guys. I have sincere sympathy for you, however.

You don't think you contributed at all by laughing?

No.

....shooting?

In Arizona. A Representative of Arizona was shot and 6 other people were killed, including a 9 year old girl.

EDITED: Had my numbers mixed up.

-C_S

However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

Exactly!

A sad tragedy, we held a prayer session in chapel today.  However, I don't see how that pertains to this discussion, but I might be missing something.

I think, now you may or may not quote me on this, but I'd rather you not take my word for it, that it pertains to this discussion because the person that did the shooting allowed themselves to take their opinion on politics literally.  i.e. they were very opinionated and passionate about their views and acted on them.  So, others are just cautioning that things get politically heated on here some times, so you never know who's capable of doing extreme measures or who is being literal about some of their opinions.  Again, that's the connection I see.

-C_S

Omission is no longer the same as commission then? I missed that memo.

Thanks for being so elucidating on the issue.

Omission is no longer the same as commission then? I missed that memo.

My previous post explains why YMT has chosen not to participate:

I think, now you may or may not quote me on this, but I'd rather you not take my word for it, that it pertains to this discussion because the person that did the shooting allowed themselves to take their opinion on politics literally.  i.e. they were very opinionated and passionate about their views and acted on them.  So, others are just cautioning that things get politically heated on here some times, so you never know who's capable of doing extreme measures or who is being literal about some of their opinions.  Again, that's the connection I see.

-C_S

-C_S

However, if his inability to be right comes from your refusal to fully explain yourself, the fault lies with you.

I just want to make sure that you guys know how you sound to the casual viewer.

 

The insinuation that those of us participating in this thread (with the obvious exception of you) are psychopathic wackos who prefer to solve their problems with bullets appalls me.

Then you know now how appalling this whole thread became.