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Ask YMT.  If there is no answer, then what was he going on about?  What are the others asking for, if they can't possibly know what it is they want?  Why did that not factor at all into your response?

And why is it that the only part of my response you choose to process is the part that allows you to be combative with me rather than conciliatory?  Especially after previously accusing me (wrongly) of only reading part of one of your posts - conveniently, allowing you to set yourself against me again?

Several forum members added the little cheese wedge ascii picture to their profile in protest.  Ever since then, the cheese thread has been a rallying cry to those who want to "stick it to the man".

The cheese wedge in my signature is an innocent inside joke, not a serious rallying cry.

Same goes for various jokes in Redemption, like Buckler being the best card.

The cheese wedge in my signature is an innocent inside joke, not a serious rallying cry.

Your defense would be more convincing if it weren't for the evidence against you.

While I was trying to deal with the goat-picture bombing of the forum, you were posting supportively in one of those threads, posted the phrase "Viva La Cheesolution" in another one (which sounds surprisingly like a rallying cry), and even went so far as to start another one of the threads yourself.

So your actions do not support the innocence that you are now proclaiming.

Quote from: lp670sv on April 09, 2012, 01:03:15 AM

I am not ymt so stop asking me to decen his argument

I'm not.  I'm saying if my answer can't appease you, maybe he can help.

Perhaps if you would actually answer the question I would be appeased. Right now I have no idea what is unacceptable to post on these boards.

So far you have said that spam is not allowed. Your definition of spam is zero-content. So far your definition of zero content is

It may or may not be fun
It may or may not be productive

That's not very helpful. The only thing I know for sure isn't allowed is goats. That is also not helpful. So for the six or seventh time you have been asked this what is zero content and how do you decide if a thread falls in to that category and will therefore not be allowed. Don't tell me to ask YMT, don't deflect. Answer. The. Question.

I am basically just trying to get you to admit that the spam rule is enforced solely on the grounds of rather or not the mods and admins find value in something, not rather or not it actually has value. You have no way of knowing a persons intent when they post a thread, the cases of goaty rebellion aside, therefore you cannot label something by your definition zero content. I'm not denying that the people who posted a bunch of goat threads and pictures were unwise to do so but it arose from an air of restriction on these forums that you seem to be the only one that can understand. Rather or not something is allowed to stay is being left up to the mods and admins discretion as to rather or not they see value in a particular discussion. We have previously had a
post funny pictures" thread that was locked for the reason of "not setting a precedents" but I don't see any value in that. What is the harm with having one thread for the posting of humorous pictures? Who is that going to offend? That is a perfect example of a "zero content" thread that actually has plenty of value. It's entertaining, it's fun, and it promotes sharing. What is so wrong about that?

I am basically just trying to get you to admit that the spam rule is enforced solely on the grounds of rather or not the mods and admins find value in something, not rather or not it actually has value.

Since that is not factually correct, I find no gain in saying something that is incorrect.

... but it arose from an air of restriction on these forums that you seem to be the only one that can understand.

The only one, except for most of the other mods, and nearly everyone who has had something to say in this thread.

That is a perfect example of a "zero content" thread that actually has plenty of value.

I fail to see how you can draw this conclusion while being simultaneously, utterly unable to understand what the term means.  And anyway, in making such a statement, you basically are stipulating the distinction between "content" and "value" that I have been saying from the beginning, AND that the removal of these threads is not based on a value judgment.

When I first read this, I really thought you all were playing some kind of extended joke with arguing about cheese and goats, etc.  But after reading this, everyone here is either really committed to this joke or you're actually serious with this conversation.  Both sides remind me of elementary school.


I've had no part in any of this.  Until yesterday I was completely unaware any of this had happened. 

I really don't understand the rules here or the definition of zero content.  I can point to a couple things now because you have labeled them as such but I would have 0 ability to predict whether some other topic would be zero content or get removed. 

Without stumbling on this thread, I would have no idea that I wasn't supposed to post on those things and I still have no idea why other than because "we say so" and I don't want to pick a fight. 

A couple days ago, I saw a picture that someone posted of a rock climbing goat and I thought it was pretty cool.  I don't understand how that can be zero content.  If it was done as some part of larger rebellion then that was immature but taken by itself it seems no different than many other threads or posts on these message boards. 

I know that if I were to post pictures of goats, etc. it would be because it was interesting and would have no rebellious intention.  I won't right now because apparently it will be assumed that it is. 

Still can't believe that this is an issue or that there is an argument about it.   

Quote from: Red on April 09, 2012, 10:58:54 AM

Fun thread=locked thread? Looks that way....

Only if someone were blind

...
Thread where people discuss Obama's speech and the price of higher education.
Thread where people discuss the merits and dangers of the Hunger Games movie.

Based on these two threads, I think we have different definitions of fun.

One question I still have, and had briefly mentioned earlier... These forums are not exactly super active, Off-Topic especially. As of this posting, the last post on the bottom thread was from February 24th.

I really don't think spam is a huge problem here, and every time it happens, it's contained in only a handful of threads. Do we really need to deal with spam so swiftly?

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on April 09, 2012, 04:07:06 PM

I really don't think spam is a huge problem here, and every time it happens, it's contained in only a handful of threads. Do we really need to deal with spam so swiftly?

Again, I don't think we do deal with spam swiftly.  Usually a warning proceeds threads being locked for spam, giving the chance for the people participating to get back on topic or make their case.

Then why was there no warning with the first goat thread that Sean posted?

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on April 09, 2012, 04:45:48 PM

Then why was there no warning with the first goat thread that Sean posted?

I've already explained that.  Pictures of goats, discussions of cheese, and buffaloes fall into a special category of spam that I consider to have rebellious connotations here on the forum, and therefore I deal with those specific issues more stringently than regular spam (as I also do with personal insults with history such as smelling like tacos).

This post smells of Tacos. Lockmeplz?

This is getting pretty repetitive. We should probably just deal with the fact that until someone lets us have a spam forum, goats are always going to be frowned upon despite the content we try to provide with them.

Lockmeplz?

I will lock this thread so that the Mods will not have to. You have insulted the very ideal that this thread was intended to accomplish.